How Obama got Elected

[10ring]

Heaven help us...

How Obama Got Elected

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1KOBMg1Y8]YouTube - How Obama Got Elected... Interviews With Obama Voters[/ame]

 

[haldir]

Pretty amazing how stupid some of them are. This was an actual scientific poll done by a reputable pollster. The numbers are really frightening. I guess Zogby is really getting beat up for doing it.

 

[NateIU10]

wow...

I love how everyone says all the rumors and guesses the bad things are repubs (like them being in control of Congress) but when the guy talks about Obama saying he'll bankrupt the coal industry, the media cannot be trusted

Never underestimate the stupidity of people.

 

[10ring]

I wouldn't call them all stupid, just ignorant and completely manipulated by a corrupt media.

 

[VN Vet]

Proof the the Communist News Netwerk (CNN) got their act to the right people.

 

[4sarge]

Sad, very sad

 

[nobletucky]

Amazing. Everyday around 10:30am on the radio 1430am four randomly selected participants are asked questions much like what I heard on the above video. One of the questions for today was: "Who will be the vice president when Hussein swears into office". All four of the participants had no idea, one person did say H. Clinton. Ironically, they all four voted for BHO. Another question was "What is a peso". One of the four answered that correctly.
Amazing how the press can brainwash people.
I will pass along that video. Good find

 

[NewsShooter]

sometimes i wonder how much the media is really to blame. those interviewed all knew the mudslinging around palin...but not about which party is in control of congress. but...to be fair, all the network news outlets talk about both. a big part of me thinks most people arent involved enough in politics to even watch politics on TV. or they just use their selective hearing to bolster their already biased views. its all about what they specifically are paying attention to.

as a member of the press...here is some shocking news: reporters and producers (who are responsible for writing 95% of news) have politicial ideologies. and yes...the vast majority have liberal ideals. speaking personally, and going only so far as local news...if i wanted to passively or blatantly flaunt or progress my own views on a story, i could do it. basically anyone can. i chose not to. i care about my job and the responsibility that goes with it. 99% of the people in the profession do the same.

 

[10ring]

sometimes i wonder how much the media is really to blame. those interviewed all knew the mudslinging around palin...but not about which party is in control of congress. but...to be fair, all the network news outlets talk about both. a big part of me thinks most people arent involved enough in politics to even watch politics on TV. or they just use their selective hearing to bolster their already biased views. its all about what they specifically are paying attention to.

as a member of the press...here is some shocking news: reporters and producers (who are responsible for writing 95% of news) have politicial ideologies. and yes...the vast majority have liberal ideals. speaking personally, and going only so far as local news...if i wanted to passively or blatantly flaunt or progress my own views on a story, i could do it. basically anyone can. i chose not to. i care about my job and the responsibility that goes with it. 99% of the people in the profession do the same.

Nonsense. With all due respect, the media coverage during this last campaign was incredibly biased and the furthest thing from objective. It was a total joke.

Don't even try to make excuses for it, it's pointless. Anyone paying attention could see clearly how the media abused its position and it's obligation to report facts without political bias.

The people in this video, if you were paying attention toward the end, explained that they got their news from sources like PBS, the New York Times, etc., who in most cases were leading the pack in their blatant cheerleading for Obama.

The fact that you "chose not to" do this sadly puts you into the minority of your chosen field of work.

 

[NewsShooter]

The people in this video, if you were paying attention toward the end, explained that they got their news from sources like PBS, the New York Times, etc., who in most cases were leading the pack in their blatant cheerleading for Obama.

if they sat out long enough to make republicans/conservatives look bad they could. if i were to say only liberal voters are the only absurdly uneducated is...well, absurd.

like i said...i cant speak on experience about network news, but i can speculate it's not that different than what i do every day.

i remember back in '04 hearing about kerry and his botox, edwards and his haircuts. then this year they talk about palin and her wardrobe.

Don't even try to make excuses for it, it's pointless. Anyone paying attention could see clearly how the media abused its position and it's obligation to report facts without political bias.

saying this...youre asking people who have politicial biases to look for political basies to confirm their suspicions. I just believe that most people are going to editorialize what they see to conform their exsisting viewpoints.

 

[10ring]

if they sat out long enough to make republicans/conservatives look bad they could.

And they did and have been for my entire lifetime, were you even awake here?

Wow.

Let me ask you a couple simple questions....

As a member of the media, do you or do you not have the obligation to report the facts of a matter without injecting your political opinion into a story? Further, should you let your political viewpoints influence you to the point of omitting or twisting information about a story to fit your political viewpoints?

Enlighten me.

 

[NewsShooter]

And they did and have been for my entire lifetime, were you even awake here?

Wow.

please do not patronize me.

Let me ask you a couple simple questions....

As a member of the media, do you or do you not have the obligation to report the facts of a matter without injecting your political opinion into a story? Further, should you let your political viewpoints influence you to the point of omitting or twisting information about a story to fit your political viewpoints?

Enlighten me.

we rely on sources for 95% of the 'facts' that go into news. if i go to a house fire, i talk to the fire chief. what the fire chief tells me becomes the news. he's the expert. it's his news to report.

if we do a story on gov daniels, we talk to the daniels camp. they're the experts, it's their news to report. when it comes to politics, we'll ask the dems for their side. they're the experts, it's their news to report also. if either side neglects to talk to us...we are not obligated to continue until a story is balanced.

i think the actual amount of input individual journalists have a story is exaggerated. and i stick by my belief that people are going to see what they want to see...by in large.

 

[10ring]

please do not patronize me.

Then don't set yourself up for ridicule!

Facts? What "facts" were reported about Obama at the same level, repetition and intensity as say Sara Palin's pregnant daughter, for example?

As clearly evidenced in that video, people believe and parrot exactly what is pounded into them by the "mainstream" media. Can you explain their behavior otherwise?

 

[NewsShooter]

Then don't set yourself up for ridicule!

im sorry. im new here. i didnt know that ridicule was the status quo.

Can you explain their behavior otherwise?

yes. they are uneducated voters. republicans/conservatives/we have them too. the ones that still think obama is a muslim. those that think he's an arab.

if i ask you if the press is biased - you answer yes. if i ask an obama supporter/liberal - mostly likely they answer no(and bash foxnews). does that make one of you right? and one of you wrong? in your eyes im sure you are dead set that you are right. which is fine by me. i was offereing my perspective on it...and getting flamed for it.

let me ask you a simple question: how do you fix what you feel is wrong with the press?

all im saying is - tin foil hats dont fit republicans. the media isn't out to get us all to vote democrat.

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Facts? What "facts" were reported about Obama at the same level, repetition and intensity as say Sara Palin's pregnant daughter, for example?

Barack and Joe the Plumber (we heard about that for much much longer than Palin's wardrobe or preggo daughter). Hillary - Her 'Bosnia' flash-backs. Biden - His "FDR" flash-back. Let's be honest about one thing. Palin was unknown. Therefore - EVERYTHING was new information. Why would they, or why would the be obligated to go back and rehash everything stupid one of the other (more) seasoned politicians had said in the past?
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[jedi]

And this is why boys & girls we have a TON OF HOMEWROK to do educating the masses on the AWB, "assault rifles", "cop killer" bullets, and the gun show loop hole.

We have beat the BO issue to dead. Lets leave that battle alone. We lost that one, we have mourn our dead, we have kicked ourselves in the head for the mistakes we made. But now is the time to look at what lies ahead. EACH AND EVERYONE OF YOU NEED TO MAKE IT YOUR MISSION TO TELL 1 NON-GUNNER PER DAY ABOUT 1 OF THE 4 TOPICS ABOVE.

We must inform the masses as we are the last line of defense. So get out there a preach, write those hand written letters to congress, take someone to the shooting range for the first time and join the NRA. Some of you may not like the NRA, may not like all the SPAM MAIL, all that donation mail, but the NRA is OUR lobby in DC and if we want to ensure we don't get another AWB then we need to cheat (i mean play) but the rules in DC. You want something done. You rally the people and pour a ton of $$$ into a lobbying group to "inform" congress.

So if you are not an NRA what are you waiting for?
If you did not talk about the 2nd amendment to someone today then you have 2 people to talk to tomorrow.

Move it Hooisers! Move it!!!

 

[4sarge]

im sorry. im new here. i didnt know that ridicule was the status quo.


yes. they are uneducated voters. republicans/conservatives/we have them too. the ones that still think obama is a muslim. those that think he's an arab.

if i ask you if the press is biased - you answer yes. if i ask an obama supporter/liberal - mostly likely they answer no(and bash foxnews). does that make one of you right? and one of you wrong? in your eyes im sure you are dead set that you are right. which is fine by me. i was offereing my perspective on it...and getting flamed for it.

let me ask you a simple question: how do you fix what you feel is wrong with the press?

all im saying is - tin foil hats dont fit republicans. the media isn't out to get us all to vote democrat.

EDIT:

Barack and Joe the Plumber (we heard about that for much much longer than Palin's wardrobe or preggo daughter). Hillary - Her 'Bosnia' flash-backs. Biden - His "FDR" flash-back. Let's be honest about one thing. Palin was unknown. Therefore - EVERYTHING was new information. Why would they, or why would the be obligated to go back and rehash everything stupid one of the other (more) seasoned politicians had said in the past?
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IMO Pretty much pure BS. The MSM is/was biased to coronate Obama as the 1st Black President. The educational union, and the higher learning institutions are pushing students toward socialism and their liberal news. Even most of the local news (TV) media would orgasm every time BOH was mentioned. Then we have Katy Couric and Chris Mathews who would openly orgasm on air when liberals were interviewed.

Local Media - Indy Star, Dennis Ryerson, Matt Tully, Jim Shella (Democrat partisan) and too many more to list.

Wealth Redistribution, Gun Control, Obama's Personal National Civilian Armed (Heavily) Personal Defense Police, Nationalization of the Banks, and Auto Industry are not going to set well with the working public.

This isn't over by a long shot; we will not go quietly into the night.

Stop spreading and drinking the Obama Kool-Aid

 

[38special]

Are you seriously suggesting that there was no MASSIVE media bias toward BHO this election?

It wasn't just a "oh, maybe they cover him more". It was an outright, shameful media bias toward BHO. And you can't tell me it had anything to do with Obama accepting interviews more than McCain. It's way past that. In fact, BHO kicked people off Obama Force One when they expressed their support for McCain!

 

[NewsShooter]

Are you seriously suggesting that there was no MASSIVE media bias toward BHO this election?

It wasn't just a "oh, maybe they cover him more". It was an outright, shameful media bias toward BHO. And you can't tell me it had anything to do with Obama accepting interviews more than McCain. It's way past that. In fact, BHO kicked people off Obama Force One when they expressed their support for McCain!

im saying two different people can see the same news article and interpret it two different ways. political coverage isn't math. there isn't an equation known to man to satisfy everyone's personal beliefs.

honestly, and i dont enjoy saying it, my beliefs are only represented in my state government. the convenient thing to do is point fingers. i cant imagine everyone was going on about some mass media conspiracy following W's two election wins. because there wasn't anything for conservatives to despise.

anyways, im not saying im right. when it comes to the gentleman that was arguing with me earlier: i dont know anything about being a marine. he was a marine. if i wanted to know what it was like, id ask him. and id believe him. he's actually been there, and done that. but people are so set in their thoughts about who's out to get them or whatever and i guess there's no fighting it.

 

[38special]

I believe you're right about interpretation...so that's when you look at actual facts. I don't recall where I read it so I can't use numbers but a survey of the media showed CLEAR bias toward Obama coverage. It wasn't even close to any margin of error.

Late night shows were 7 times more likely to pick on McCain/Palin than Obama/Biden.

 

[NewsShooter]

I believe you're right about interpretation...so that's when you look at actual facts. I don't recall where I read it so I can't use numbers but a survey of the media showed CLEAR bias toward Obama coverage. It wasn't even close to any margin of error.

Late night shows were 7 times more likely to pick on McCain/Palin than Obama/Biden.

ill concede you that point if there is a similar study from past presidential elections. i dont think you can accurately tell the whole story with a sample size of 1.

if in 2000 and 2004 the same ratio of bush negative news was the same as mccain - ill gladly admit im mistaken.

btw. mccain IS old. Palin IS a woman. two things that are more than policially correct to make fun of. i dont know of any network late show that feels comfortable making a food stamps and obama joke. it's hard to make fun of black people when there is so much controversy over making fun of black people.