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Hancock County Sheriff arrested!!
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Followup: Hancock County sheriff a wanted man
And as always, innocent until proven guilty. At first glance, this looks like a well-written, sympathetic article.
And as always, innocent until proven guilty. At first glance, this looks like a well-written, sympathetic article.
snapping turtle
Grandmaster
Misappropriation of funds, theft, conspiracy, official misconduct, raiding the drug buy money, selling brass off the range and cans picked up by prisoners, intimidation of witness, ,obstruction of justice, ,,, sounds like either he was being real bad or someones set him up real good.
Being held in hamilton county jail with no bail and the special prosecutor out of whitley county. Sounds like he is in some big trouble. Arrested at the casino by the only county offical that can the coroner.
Hey you hancock county guys did you not have a sheriff busted in the late 1980's or 1990's for growing lots of tasty homegrown pot on his property. You know the one with the fishing tackle store. ( i will not mention any names as I can;t remember the exact details) must be something in the well water in hancock county.
You know hancock county's motto come on vacation leave on probation. How about a new one "win an election get a jail house erection". Hope i did not offend.
Being held in hamilton county jail with no bail and the special prosecutor out of whitley county. Sounds like he is in some big trouble. Arrested at the casino by the only county offical that can the coroner.
Hey you hancock county guys did you not have a sheriff busted in the late 1980's or 1990's for growing lots of tasty homegrown pot on his property. You know the one with the fishing tackle store. ( i will not mention any names as I can;t remember the exact details) must be something in the well water in hancock county.
You know hancock county's motto come on vacation leave on probation. How about a new one "win an election get a jail house erection". Hope i did not offend.
Truckerman79
Sharpshooter
Looks like he may have a gambling habit. I stood next to him at the poll on primary day. Seemed like a decent guy.
VUPDblue
Silencers Have NEVER Been Illegal !
Yep, every single time, there's not one single honest person out there, everyone is a lying POS.....
I have known Mr. Gray since I was a child. Grew up in the same town as he did and my parents were family friends with his. Never saw something like this coming. I always thought he was a stand-up type of guy. I guess you just never really know people huh? Not saying he's guilty, just that there has to be some misdoing for allegations/charges for so many different aspects of his invovlement.
E5RANGER375
Shooter
hmm interwebsting. have to see how this plays out. I always did find it cool that the only county official authorized to arrest the sheriff is the coroner. bet he s*** a brick when he saw that guy walk in. wonder if he did it in scrubs, lol.
I first met Bud Gray when I did a department shadowing career thing back in the mid-90s. He was a nice enough guy then. Back then Bradbury was Sheriff, and Gray, if I recall, was the second in command...though I am not 100% on that. I was with a jail guard who pointed out the former Sheriff, Guilling (or something like that). This guy was the jail commander and had been elected as a state representative if I recall. Eventually Guiling would run for Sheriff again, and won an additional two terms.
Then Guillings terms are up, and I see Bradbury running again, along with Gray and some others. Bradbury didn't do well in the primary, but Bud Gray won and I wondered what exactly was going on in the department. I never heard anything bad when Bradbury was Sheriff, but I was younger back then and internet forums weren't as big. Anyways, Gray won and I recall an article where he put the deputies on 12 hour shifts, and then a few months later, turned around and took them off. Then he had a guy die in the jail and recommended firing of a well known, long term deputy. I read the entire merit board voted to not fire her. I don't know who was correct in that situation, but to have an entire five member board (was five members back when I interviewed with them) say "Sorry sheriff, your wrong." could mean the firing recommendation was way off, or that politics were at play.
I thought for sure Gray would win a second term, and was shocked when he lost in the primary. I voted for him only because of what I knew. I saw deputies out and about for the most part, patrolling. I wasn't going to blame the death of a chronic drug user at the jail on him. I heard a few one sided stories, but I won't use possible biased opinions to drive my vote. Given these recent charges, I am staying on the sidelines before I make up my mind. They are claiming he used, for personal reasons $4,000. I would guess this would be sometime in the recent past, say within the last two years. $4,000 isn't really that much money in terms of paying a mortgage, bills, etc.. Unless Gray is just really, really bad with his household income (last I knew from his website, he was married with two kids), I can't see such a person having a need for that money. I have always been under the impression the Hancock Co. Sheriff was paying $80-$110K/year depending on the contract offered. You factor in the guy had a take home vehicle, worth about $2-$5K/year for the last three decades, he would really have to have made some bad investment decisions, or totally wasted his money, to have a need to take $3,000-$4,000 to live off of.
Then Guillings terms are up, and I see Bradbury running again, along with Gray and some others. Bradbury didn't do well in the primary, but Bud Gray won and I wondered what exactly was going on in the department. I never heard anything bad when Bradbury was Sheriff, but I was younger back then and internet forums weren't as big. Anyways, Gray won and I recall an article where he put the deputies on 12 hour shifts, and then a few months later, turned around and took them off. Then he had a guy die in the jail and recommended firing of a well known, long term deputy. I read the entire merit board voted to not fire her. I don't know who was correct in that situation, but to have an entire five member board (was five members back when I interviewed with them) say "Sorry sheriff, your wrong." could mean the firing recommendation was way off, or that politics were at play.
I thought for sure Gray would win a second term, and was shocked when he lost in the primary. I voted for him only because of what I knew. I saw deputies out and about for the most part, patrolling. I wasn't going to blame the death of a chronic drug user at the jail on him. I heard a few one sided stories, but I won't use possible biased opinions to drive my vote. Given these recent charges, I am staying on the sidelines before I make up my mind. They are claiming he used, for personal reasons $4,000. I would guess this would be sometime in the recent past, say within the last two years. $4,000 isn't really that much money in terms of paying a mortgage, bills, etc.. Unless Gray is just really, really bad with his household income (last I knew from his website, he was married with two kids), I can't see such a person having a need for that money. I have always been under the impression the Hancock Co. Sheriff was paying $80-$110K/year depending on the contract offered. You factor in the guy had a take home vehicle, worth about $2-$5K/year for the last three decades, he would really have to have made some bad investment decisions, or totally wasted his money, to have a need to take $3,000-$4,000 to live off of.
The coroner is a woman and she hugged him before reading the warrant.
Sheriff’s Compensation:
IC 36-2-13-2.5
Salary contracts for sheriffs; required provisions
Sec. 2.5. (a) The sheriff, the executive, and the fiscal body may enter into a salary contract for the sheriff.
(b) A sheriff's salary contract must contain the following provisions:
(1) A fixed amount of compensation for the sheriff in place of fee compensation.
(2) Payment of the full amount of the sheriff's compensation from the county general fund in the manner that salaries of other county officials are paid.
(3) Deposit by the sheriff of the sheriff's tax warrant collection fees (as described in IC 6-8.1-8-3) in the county general fund for use for any general fund purpose.
(4) A procedure for financing prisoners' meals that uses one (1) of the following methods:
(A) The county fiscal body shall make an appropriation in the usual manner from the county general fund to the sheriff for feeding prisoners. The sheriff or the sheriff's officers, deputies, or employees may not make a profit from the appropriation. The sheriff shall deposit all meal allowances received under IC 36-8-10-7 in the county general fund for use for any general fund purpose.
(B) The sheriff shall pay for feeding prisoners from meal allowances received under IC 36-8-10-7. The sheriff or the sheriff's officers, deputies, or employees may not make a profit from the meal allowances. After the expenses of feeding prisoners are paid, the sheriff shall deposit any
unspent meal allowance money in the county general fund for use for any general fund purpose.
(5) A requirement that the sheriff shall file an accounting of expenditures for feeding prisoners with the county auditor on the first Monday of January and the first Monday of July of each year.
(6) An expiration date that is not later than the date that the term of the sheriff expires.
(7) Other provisions concerning the sheriff's compensation to which the sheriff, the county executive, and the fiscal body agree.
(c) A salary contract is entered under this section when a written document containing the provisions of the contract is:
(1) approved by resolution of both the executive and the fiscal body; and
(2) signed by the sheriff.
(d) A salary contract entered into under this section before November 1, 2010, with a sheriff who is reelected to office in 2010 is subject to section 17 of this chapter.
As added by P.L.83-1993, SEC.2. Amended by P.L.40-2008, SEC.2.
IC 36-2-13-2.8
Payment of compensation from county general fund
Sec. 2.8. (a) In place of any other form of compensation, including a salary contract entered into under section 2.5 of this chapter, a county may pay a sheriff's compensation as provided in this section from the county general fund in the manner that salaries of other county officials are paid. Subject to section 17 of this chapter, the sheriff may retain the sheriff's tax warrant collection fees (as described in IC 6-8.1-8-3).
(b) If a county pays a sheriff's compensation under this section, the county fiscal body shall make an appropriation in the usual manner from the county general fund for feeding prisoners. The sheriff or the sheriff's officers, deputies, or employees may not make a profit from the appropriation.
(c) Subject to section 17 of this chapter, a county that pays a sheriff's compensation under this section shall pay the sheriff as follows:
(1) In a county having a population of not more than twenty thousand (20,000), the county must pay the sheriff an annual salary that is equal to at least fifty percent (50%) of the annual minimum salary that would be paid by the state to a full-time prosecuting attorney in the county.
(2) In a county having a population of:
(A) more than twenty thousand (20,000); and
(B) not more than forty thousand (40,000);
the county must pay the sheriff an annual salary that is equal to at least sixty percent (60%) of the annual minimum salary that would be paid by the state to a full-time prosecuting attorney in the county.
(3) In a county having a population of:
(A) more than forty thousand (40,000); and
(B) not more than sixty-five thousand five hundred (65,500);
the county must pay the sheriff an annual salary that is equal to at least seventy percent (70%) of the annual minimum salary that would be paid by the state to a full-time prosecuting attorney in the county.
(4) In a county having a population of:
(A) more than sixty-five thousand five hundred (65,500); and
(B) not more than one hundred thousand (100,000);
the county must pay the sheriff an annual salary that is equal to at least eighty percent (80%) of the annual minimum salary that would be paid by the state to a full-time prosecuting attorney in the county.
(5) In a county having a population of:
(A) more than one hundred thousand (100,000); and
(B) not more than two hundred thousand (200,000);
the county must pay the sheriff an annual salary that is equal to at least ninety percent (90%) of the annual minimum salary that would be paid by the state to a full-time prosecuting attorney in the county.
(6) In a county having a population of more than two hundred thousand (200,000), the county must pay the sheriff an annual salary that is equal to at least one hundred percent (100%) of the annual minimum salary that would be paid by the state to a full-time prosecuting attorney in the county.
As added by P.L.230-1996, SEC.1. Amended by P.L.40-2008, SEC.3.
IC 36-2-13-17
Maximum amount of compensation for sheriff
Sec. 17. (a) This section applies to the following:
(1) A contract entered into under section 2.5 of this chapter with a sheriff who is elected or reelected to office after November 1, 2010.
(2) Any other form of annual compensation provided to a sheriff who is elected or reelected to office after November 1, 2010.
(b) The total amount of a sheriff's annual compensation from:
(1) the county general fund;
(2) any tax warrant collection fees retained by the sheriff under IC 6-8.1-8-3; and
(3) any other public source;
may not exceed the amount determined under subsection (c). For purposes of this subsection, "any other public source" does not include retirement or disability benefits from a federal, a state, or another state's local governmental retirement or disability program, whether the retirement or disability benefit is based on prior employment by the sheriff or another individual, nor does it include worker's compensation benefits paid to the sheriff.
(c) To determine the maximum amount of a sheriff's annual compensation, a county fiscal body shall determine the sum of the following:
(1) The annual minimum salary that would be paid by the state to a full-time prosecuting attorney in the county.
(2) The amount of any additional annual salary paid by the county from county sources to a full-time prosecuting attorney in the county.
As added by P.L.40-2008, SEC.4.
(Please note that 36-2-13-17 does not take effect until November)
IC 36-2-13-2.5
Salary contracts for sheriffs; required provisions
Sec. 2.5. (a) The sheriff, the executive, and the fiscal body may enter into a salary contract for the sheriff.
(b) A sheriff's salary contract must contain the following provisions:
(1) A fixed amount of compensation for the sheriff in place of fee compensation.
(2) Payment of the full amount of the sheriff's compensation from the county general fund in the manner that salaries of other county officials are paid.
(3) Deposit by the sheriff of the sheriff's tax warrant collection fees (as described in IC 6-8.1-8-3) in the county general fund for use for any general fund purpose.
(4) A procedure for financing prisoners' meals that uses one (1) of the following methods:
(A) The county fiscal body shall make an appropriation in the usual manner from the county general fund to the sheriff for feeding prisoners. The sheriff or the sheriff's officers, deputies, or employees may not make a profit from the appropriation. The sheriff shall deposit all meal allowances received under IC 36-8-10-7 in the county general fund for use for any general fund purpose.
(B) The sheriff shall pay for feeding prisoners from meal allowances received under IC 36-8-10-7. The sheriff or the sheriff's officers, deputies, or employees may not make a profit from the meal allowances. After the expenses of feeding prisoners are paid, the sheriff shall deposit any
unspent meal allowance money in the county general fund for use for any general fund purpose.
(5) A requirement that the sheriff shall file an accounting of expenditures for feeding prisoners with the county auditor on the first Monday of January and the first Monday of July of each year.
(6) An expiration date that is not later than the date that the term of the sheriff expires.
(7) Other provisions concerning the sheriff's compensation to which the sheriff, the county executive, and the fiscal body agree.
(c) A salary contract is entered under this section when a written document containing the provisions of the contract is:
(1) approved by resolution of both the executive and the fiscal body; and
(2) signed by the sheriff.
(d) A salary contract entered into under this section before November 1, 2010, with a sheriff who is reelected to office in 2010 is subject to section 17 of this chapter.
As added by P.L.83-1993, SEC.2. Amended by P.L.40-2008, SEC.2.
IC 36-2-13-2.8
Payment of compensation from county general fund
Sec. 2.8. (a) In place of any other form of compensation, including a salary contract entered into under section 2.5 of this chapter, a county may pay a sheriff's compensation as provided in this section from the county general fund in the manner that salaries of other county officials are paid. Subject to section 17 of this chapter, the sheriff may retain the sheriff's tax warrant collection fees (as described in IC 6-8.1-8-3).
(b) If a county pays a sheriff's compensation under this section, the county fiscal body shall make an appropriation in the usual manner from the county general fund for feeding prisoners. The sheriff or the sheriff's officers, deputies, or employees may not make a profit from the appropriation.
(c) Subject to section 17 of this chapter, a county that pays a sheriff's compensation under this section shall pay the sheriff as follows:
(1) In a county having a population of not more than twenty thousand (20,000), the county must pay the sheriff an annual salary that is equal to at least fifty percent (50%) of the annual minimum salary that would be paid by the state to a full-time prosecuting attorney in the county.
(2) In a county having a population of:
(A) more than twenty thousand (20,000); and
(B) not more than forty thousand (40,000);
the county must pay the sheriff an annual salary that is equal to at least sixty percent (60%) of the annual minimum salary that would be paid by the state to a full-time prosecuting attorney in the county.
(3) In a county having a population of:
(A) more than forty thousand (40,000); and
(B) not more than sixty-five thousand five hundred (65,500);
the county must pay the sheriff an annual salary that is equal to at least seventy percent (70%) of the annual minimum salary that would be paid by the state to a full-time prosecuting attorney in the county.
(4) In a county having a population of:
(A) more than sixty-five thousand five hundred (65,500); and
(B) not more than one hundred thousand (100,000);
the county must pay the sheriff an annual salary that is equal to at least eighty percent (80%) of the annual minimum salary that would be paid by the state to a full-time prosecuting attorney in the county.
(5) In a county having a population of:
(A) more than one hundred thousand (100,000); and
(B) not more than two hundred thousand (200,000);
the county must pay the sheriff an annual salary that is equal to at least ninety percent (90%) of the annual minimum salary that would be paid by the state to a full-time prosecuting attorney in the county.
(6) In a county having a population of more than two hundred thousand (200,000), the county must pay the sheriff an annual salary that is equal to at least one hundred percent (100%) of the annual minimum salary that would be paid by the state to a full-time prosecuting attorney in the county.
As added by P.L.230-1996, SEC.1. Amended by P.L.40-2008, SEC.3.
IC 36-2-13-17
Maximum amount of compensation for sheriff
Sec. 17. (a) This section applies to the following:
(1) A contract entered into under section 2.5 of this chapter with a sheriff who is elected or reelected to office after November 1, 2010.
(2) Any other form of annual compensation provided to a sheriff who is elected or reelected to office after November 1, 2010.
(b) The total amount of a sheriff's annual compensation from:
(1) the county general fund;
(2) any tax warrant collection fees retained by the sheriff under IC 6-8.1-8-3; and
(3) any other public source;
may not exceed the amount determined under subsection (c). For purposes of this subsection, "any other public source" does not include retirement or disability benefits from a federal, a state, or another state's local governmental retirement or disability program, whether the retirement or disability benefit is based on prior employment by the sheriff or another individual, nor does it include worker's compensation benefits paid to the sheriff.
(c) To determine the maximum amount of a sheriff's annual compensation, a county fiscal body shall determine the sum of the following:
(1) The annual minimum salary that would be paid by the state to a full-time prosecuting attorney in the county.
(2) The amount of any additional annual salary paid by the county from county sources to a full-time prosecuting attorney in the county.
As added by P.L.40-2008, SEC.4.
(Please note that 36-2-13-17 does not take effect until November)
Sheriffs in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Somewhat unusual among the states, Indiana sheriffs are paid a salary out of which they must feed the prisoners in the county jails in their charge. They must account for the money they spend on prisoner's food; many counties' agreement with the sheriff's department allows the elected sheriff to keep the remaining funds allocated, which is contrary to state law.[8]
Somewhat unusual among the states, Indiana sheriffs are paid a salary out of which they must feed the prisoners in the county jails in their charge. They must account for the money they spend on prisoner's food; many counties' agreement with the sheriff's department allows the elected sheriff to keep the remaining funds allocated, which is contrary to state law.[8]
Frank J. Anderson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Salary Controversy
Sheriff Anderson's annual compensation is more than that of the Governor of the State of Indiana or the Mayor of the City of Indianapolis [3]. Sheriff Anderson turned down a $50,000 per year raise when he came under public scrutiny after an Indianapolis Star article detailed his 2005 annual base pay as $102,000 in addition to $268,000 from a portion of fees collected from tax warrants, for total compensation of $370,000, nearly that of the President of the United States [4].
Salary Controversy
Sheriff Anderson's annual compensation is more than that of the Governor of the State of Indiana or the Mayor of the City of Indianapolis [3]. Sheriff Anderson turned down a $50,000 per year raise when he came under public scrutiny after an Indianapolis Star article detailed his 2005 annual base pay as $102,000 in addition to $268,000 from a portion of fees collected from tax warrants, for total compensation of $370,000, nearly that of the President of the United States [4].
In Brown County Indiana this year 7 people ran for sheriff in the Primary runoff ... I never knew there were that many people that had that much civic pride ... I 'm sure the salary compensation had nothing to do with it .
Duncan
Duncan
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Brown Co. has a population of about 15,000, so the Sheriff's wage is likely around $60K, as prosecutor's make around $120K if I recall. I wonder if the pay actually went up for Brown County's sheriff, but down for Hancock County. Hancock County has around 55K people, so the Sheriff will get paid $84K. This is actually less than in past years, when the contracts I recalled reading about were in the $90K/year range. This year, there were only two contenders for Sheriff that I know of. Maybe there was a third or fourth who dropped out, but I only recall two names on the ballot. My guess is that the Brown Co. compensation went up from where it was, thus driving more folks to enter the race. You can claim it is about greed, but look on the bright side. Hancock Co. Sheriff's pay is now capped at what I believe is lower than in decades past, and we only had two contenders on the Republican side (there is one Democrat, who I believe ran unopposed), one of whom was the current Sheriff. In Brown County, the pay likely increased, so now you at least have a choice among more than just two people.
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An Increase in interest and filings doesn't equivalent to sincere people with good character that hold the Constitution and the rights of man dear to the heart .
Well the Sheriff's can be capped on their " salary " but uhhh ...
IC 6-8.1-8-3
Judgments arising from tax warrants; collection
"auctioneer" means an auctioneer licensed under IC 25-6.1.
(c) The sheriff shall deposit all amounts that the sheriff collects under this section, including partial payments, into a special trust account for judgments collected that arose from tax warrants. On or before the fifth day of each month, the sheriff shall disburse the money in the tax warrant judgment lien trust account in the following order:
(1) The sheriff shall pay the department the part of the collections that represents taxes, interest, and penalties.
(2) The sheriff shall pay the county treasurer and the clerk of the circuit or superior court the part of the collections that represents their assessed costs.
(3) Except as provided in subdivisions (4) and (5), the sheriff shall keep the part of the collections that represents the ten percent (10%) collection fee added under section 2(b) of this chapter.
(4) If the sheriff has entered a salary contract under IC 36-2-13-2.5, the sheriff shall deposit in the county general fund the part of the collections that represents the ten percent (10%) collection fee added under section 2(b) of this chapter.
(5) If the sheriff has not entered into a salary contract under IC 36-2-13-2.5, the sheriff shall deposit in the county general fund the part of the collections that:
(A) represents the ten percent (10%) collection fee added under section 2(b) of this chapter; and
(B) would, if kept by the sheriff, result in the total amount of the sheriff's annual compensation exceeding the maximum amount allowed under IC 36-2-13-17.
The department shall establish the procedure for the disbursement of partial payments so that the intent of this section is carried out.
(d) After the period described in subsection (a) has passed, the sheriff shall return the tax warrant to the department. However, if the department determines that:
(1) at the end of this period the sheriff is in the process of collecting the judgment arising from a tax warrant in periodic payments of sufficient size that the judgment will be fully paid within one (1) year after the date the judgment was filed; and
(2) the sheriff's electronic data base regarding tax warrants is compatible with the department's data base;
the sheriff may keep the tax warrant and continue collections.
(e) Notwithstanding any other provision of this chapter, the department may order a sheriff to return a tax warrant at any time, if the department feels that action is necessary to protect the interests of the state.
(f) This subsection applies only to the sheriff of a county having a consolidated city or a second class city. In such a county, the ten percent (10%) collection fee added under section 2(b) of this chapter shall be divided as follows:
(1) Subject to subsection (g), the sheriff may retain forty thousand dollars ($40,000), plus one-fifth (1/5) of any fees
exceeding that forty thousand dollar ($40,000) amount.
(2) Two-fifths (2/5) of any fees exceeding that forty thousand dollar ($40,000) amount shall be deposited in the sheriff's department's pension trust fund.
(3) Two-fifths (2/5) of any fees exceeding that forty thousand dollar ($40,000) amount shall be deposited in the county general fund.
(g) If an amount of the collection fee added under section 2(b) of this chapter would, if retained by the sheriff under subsection (f)(1), cause the total amount of the sheriff's annual compensation to exceed the maximum amount allowed under IC 36-2-13-17, the sheriff shall instead deposit the amount in the county general fund.
(h) Money deposited into a county general fund under subsections (c)(5) and (g) must be used as follows:
(1) To reduce any unfunded liability of a sheriff's pension trust plan established for the county's sheriff's department.
(2) Any amounts remaining after complying with subdivision (1) must be applied to the costs incurred to operate the county's sheriff's department.
As added by Acts 1980, P.L.61, SEC.1. Amended by Acts 1982, P.L.65, SEC.1; P.L.32-1983, SEC.3; P.L.46-1991, SEC.8; P.L.1-1993, SEC.44; P.L.83-1993, SEC.1; P.L.1-1994, SEC.32; P.L.129-2001, SEC.23; P.L.111-2006, SEC.7; P.L.40-2008, SEC.1.
Thanks
Duncan
