You are injured and going into shock. What are your options? Can you still fight? Can you focus through it?
I would have to say it depends
There is emotional shock and there is physiological shock. The first can be overcome through mindset and/or training. The second is more dependent on the type of injury that caused it,as to how long someone could continue to function effectively.
So the emotional is the cold sweat, nausea and lightheadedness? That can be pushed aside to use your still working parts to focus on and eliminate the threat?
How does one train for this?
This is all sound advice for a good start.I can only tell you what I've done, and frankly I have not been exposed to a severe emotional/psychological shock, such as you might get if you saw someone blown away by an I.E.D. right in front of me, so who can say how I might react if the S were ever to really HTF.
Having said that, I recommend non-scripted martial arts as one way to work on it. I worked with a guy who set up alley scenarios where you walked down an alley and even though you knew something was going to happen, you didn't know what or how many people were going to jump you.
Get used to getting hit. I believe that most people succumb to "turtleing" the first time even a superficial blow hits them in the head or face.
Build pain tolerance. If you are unlucky you already know what broken bones, concussions, dislocated shoulders and such feel like, but at least you know the difference between painful and debilitating. And don't much envy you trying to replicate those things voluntarily, though. A bad kidney stone will give you a decent indication of what it feels like to hurt, but know you aren't really dying
Endurance sports (mountain climbing is what I did) will help you figure out that even if you are positive you can't take another step, you really can take another 10,000 steps, if you want it bad enough.
I'm sure there are better ways to try and prepare yourself to combat the effects of emotional/psychological shock than this, but these have worked for minor shock inducing things like bad car wrecks, broken bones in the wild, stupid bar fights, and the like.
Sometimes.OK, what I'm trying to get to is the psychological shock that comes from one's own injury. I understand there are those "walking dead" that have pushed through phenomenal trauma to "finish the fight." Not unlike heart shot game running 50 yards.
My question is whether this seemingly involuntary shock happens when there is a lull in the action? Thus can be pushed back by your own focus on something trying to hurt or kill you?
The other question is whether your natural drive to stay alive will bring you out of the midst of the "haze" of this psychological shock when necessary?
Of course. All of the psychological shock can be "pushed" through depending on the person. Some people simply aren't "mentally tough" enough to handle situations though. Just as you're eluding to in this thread, your ability to overcome will be determined by your own "mental toughness." Will to survive, being decisive, and able to stay focused on the overall objective will all play huge factors.OK, what I'm trying to get to is the psychological shock that comes from one's own injury. I understand there are those "walking dead" that have pushed through phenomenal trauma to "finish the fight." Not unlike heart shot game running 50 yards.
My question is whether this seemingly involuntary shock happens when there is a lull in the action? Thus can be pushed back by your own focus on something trying to hurt or kill you?
The other question is whether your natural drive to stay alive will bring you out of the midst of the "haze" of this psychological shock when necessary?
My question is whether this seemingly involuntary shock happens when there is a lull in the action? Thus can be pushed back by your own focus on something trying to hurt or kill you?
There's nothing "seemingly involuntary" about it . If a person loses enough blood , their body WILL go into shock , period , whether they like it or not .
There's three things that make every last one of us the same , we all breath , we all bleed and we're all gonna die .
We're all , fluid / air filled bags of bones .
Those things don't change no matter how "bad ass" anyone is or how much training they've had .
The other question is whether your natural drive to stay alive will bring you out of the midst of the "haze" of this psychological shock when necessary?
There is emotional shock and there is physiological shock.
I'm sure there is someone here with more advanced medical training than my own, but I perceive the difference being that when your body is literally physically unable to perform functions necessary to continue the fight. Without a pre-existing adrenaline, heart rate, "fight or flight syndrome" boost already started, once you reach that point you will not be able to continue regardless. Those changes in the body will determine the breaking point of continuing the fight. A man under those bodily chemicals can maintain his attack for over 20 seconds after his heart has STOPPED. I haven't been injured nearly that severely, but I will attest to the fact that the majority of the time people give up the fight in their head LONG before they physically cannot continue. The same goes for strenuous physical exercise.I believe this is a very important distinction, and one that hasn't been specifically made in this thread yet.
So what are the differences?
Good thread Frame.
I'm sure there is someone here with more advanced medical training than my own...