F.A.S.T. Drill

[Fordtough25]

Anybody run this drill? I picked up on it from Ballistic Radio's host and then onto pistol-training.com » F.A.S.T. (Fundamentals, Accuracy, & Speed Test) where it originated. Great drill, helped my reloads a lot! Also helped me focus on my draw to target focus as well. And it's fun! Anybody?

 

[60Driver]

Excellent drill (or more correctly "test") and I believe you will find many who are influenced by TLG's teaching are of course familiar with it.

I think Sevigny ran it sub 4 seconds clean! That is Kittening FAST!

 

[cedartop]

Yes, it is a good drill. I first shot it in a TLG class a few years ago. IIRC I only scored and intermediate time on it back then. For me the key isnt really the time, but as a gauge for improvement. If anyone remembers me posting recently about the two perfect scores at Rogers Shooting School, this guy was one of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njgDWRIyIO8

 

[Disposable Heart]

It's excellent as a drill or test. Tests your loading, and transition from loading to accurate shots again. For a really good pressure maker: Do it backwards. Going fast on the large circle, loading quickly, then having to "slow down" to get the accurate shots. Or modify it: remove the 3x5 and put a 2" dot. Youch! Displays some serious flaws in one's training.

 

[Fordtough25]

Anybody new tried this test/drill? I still enjoy running it.

 

[romack991]

Saw this post earlier this evening and had a few minutes so I went out and shot it with my production gear (not concealed).
[video=youtube;L6zyUkDwA3Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6zyUkDwA3Q[/video]
Cold was 4.2s. 1.5 draw, .4 split, 1.6 reload, .20 splits.
Draw to the head box was a bit sloppy, reloads with the production gun still aren't up to speed. Got sloppy and threw the second shot on the 8" circle just above it.
I might practice this a bit more. Probably should be around 3.25 to 3.5s if you figure 1.3 draw, .3 split, 1.2 to 1.3 reload, .15 to .2 splits

Similar to 4 aces but the fast drill is more demanding on the accuracy with the head box shots.
4 aces is 7yds. Draw, fire two, reload (not slide lock), fire two.
Last week I was trying to get my time down on that and 2.2s or 2.3s was the best I could do. .8 draw, .16 split, 1.05 reload, .16 split
This was with my single stack, I just switched to my production gun so I doubt I could run those same times with it.

 

[cedartop]

Saw this post earlier this evening and had a few minutes so I went out and shot it with my production gear (not concealed).
[video=youtube;L6zyUkDwA3Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6zyUkDwA3Q[/video]
Cold was 4.2s. 1.5 draw, .4 split, 1.6 reload, .20 splits.
Draw to the head box was a bit sloppy, reloads with the production gun still aren't up to speed. Got sloppy and threw the second shot on the 8" circle just above it.
I might practice this a bit more. Probably should be around 3.25 to 3.5s if you figure 1.3 draw, .3 split, 1.2 to 1.3 reload, .15 to .2 splits

Similar to 4 aces but the fast drill is more demanding on the accuracy with the head box shots.
4 aces is 7yds. Draw, fire two, reload (not slide lock), fire two.
Last week I was trying to get my time down on that and 2.2s or 2.3s was the best I could do. .8 draw, .16 split, 1.05 reload, .16 split
This was with my single stack, I just switched to my production gun so I doubt I could run those same times with it.

That is pretty impressive. It doesn't count because of your gear setup, but that places you among the fastest to ever do the drill. Your estimated time puts you right up there with Dave Sevigney. pistol-training.com » FASTest

 

[Fordtough25]

Shew that was fast indeed! Well done Sir, I will see if I can take a video of my poor attempt in the future.

 

[GNRPowdeR]

I'm hoping to get a chance at this drill on Sunday.

 

[cedartop]

I'm hoping to get a chance at this drill on Sunday.

Officially?

 

[GNRPowdeR]

Officially?

I'm working with VERT at a range Sunday and we should have time (weather permitting) to get a few drills in.

 

[cedartop]

I'm working with VERT at a range Sunday and we should have time (weather permitting) to get a few drills in.

Ahh. I thought maybe you were taking a Langdon class somewhere.

 

[GNRPowdeR]

Nope. Teaching a Defensive Handgun Familiarization course and range time for a local Well Armed Woman group.

 

[VERT]

I'm working with VERT at a range Sunday and we should have time (weather permitting) to get a few drills in.

Don't implicate me or make me part of your little world!

I am am thinking about what drill we will do Sunday. Probably not this one for the ladies. Although I think Susie and Vicky are ready ready. They would seriously shoot somebody in the head.

 

[GNRPowdeR]

Although I think Susie and Vicky are ready ready. They would seriously shoot somebody in the head.

 

[romack991]

Again, not from concealed but I ran it again tonight for the fun of it. Didn't look at the time for the first run on the video but second run got down to 3.83s.

[video=youtube;Rw-UDWFqpAE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw-UDWFqpAE[/video]

 

[rhino]

Again, not from concealed but I ran it again tonight for the fun of it. Didn't look at the time for the first run on the video but second run got down to 3.83s.

Why not try it with concealment a few times to compare to the benchmarks?

 

[cedartop]

Why not try it with concealment a few times to compare to the benchmarks?

And with non gamer gear? He is obviously a good shooter. I would love to see how concealment and edc gear would effect the times. Maybe not that much when you are a really good shooter?

 

[JohnN]

Again, not from concealed but I ran it again tonight for the fun of it. Didn't look at the time for the first run on the video but second run got down to 3.83s.

[video=youtube;Rw-UDWFqpAE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw-UDWFqpAE[/video]

Great times. Since you didn't show the target I am assuming you had all hits inside the scoring rings.

Ernest Langdon will be here Oct 3-4 if anyone would like to shoot the FAST test for score along with a great training opportunity.

 

[romack991]

Why not try it with concealment a few times to compare to the benchmarks?

I don't carry so there really isn't a point for me to benchmark to those posted scores. Looking online you can see some GMs can go under 3 sec unconcealed. (Ben has a video w/ concealment at 3.11.) OP was just looking for others who had shot it so I went out and tried it. It's a good drill.
(For a comparison, I'm in A class in USPSA. I've shot with this gun/gear for about 4 months.)

And with non gamer gear? He is obviously a good shooter. I would love to see how concealment and edc gear would effect the times. Maybe not that much when you are a really good shooter?

I'm not sure if a OWB kydex holster is that "gamer". It's belt height same as my 1911s.
Probably add 1s. Obviously you have to practice with gear to be proficient with it.

Great times. Since you didn't show the target I am assuming you had all hits inside the scoring rings.

I had two shots outside the head box on four runs.
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