Don't carry if you don't have your LTCH card on you?

[ACC]

Last week, my wallet was stolen and in it was my LTCH card. I went down to the Indy City County building on Friday (I was already downtown) to apply for a replacement card. The only way to renew is online apparently as the lady in the Firearms License office told.

However, she also told me "Be sure not to carry your firearm until you received your replacement card (up to 6 weeks) as it is illegal for you to carry if you do not have your card with you".

I did not argue with her...but REALLY? I cannot imagine this is actually true. So, because some lowlife stole my wallet, now I have to go up to 6 weeks without my CCW? Gotta be BS.

Any LEO's here that can tell me if this is true?

 

[mrjarrell]

It isn't true and it's something we've discussed here on INGO any number of times. If a cop wants to know if you have one he can access the records himself. It's no big hassle. The woman was dead wrong. As long as you are still a person in good standing and your license has not been revoked you can carry without a license on you.

 

[eldirector]

A year or two ago, this was true. The language was changed from "in possession" to "without being licensed".

My little pink card is in my wallet. So, if I have my wallet, I have my card. If I don't, I don't.

 

[chezuki]

The law no longer requires you to carry the card, but the burden of proof is still on you. I'd imagine a printout from the site showing your approval would suffice in the unlikely event you were ever asked to prove your status.


https://firearms.ariesportal.com/Public/Login.aspx

 

[BehindBlueI's]

A year or two ago, this was true. The language was changed from "in possession" to "without being licensed".

My little pink card is in my wallet. So, if I have my wallet, I have my card. If I don't, I don't.

This. Her information is outdated.

 

[ACC]

I figured this was the case. Idiotic bureaucrats....and this lady WORKED IN THE FIREARMS LICENSE OFFICE!!!

Glad I had INGO to set the record straight.

 

[VERT]

So what were you doing to get pulled over and have your wallet stolen?

 

[SEIndSAM]

So what were you doing to get pulled over and have your wallet stolen?

Tell us, was it ISP???

 

[gunworks321]

Wallet!

 

[Double T]

Wallet?

 

[VERT]

Wallet?

Incorrect.

WALLET!!!!!

 

[BehindBlueI's]

I figured this was the case. Idiotic bureaucrats....and this lady WORKED IN THE FIREARMS LICENSE OFFICE!!!

Glad I had INGO to set the record straight.

They are secretaries. They get no legal training, they get no update training, etc. I had to argue with one who didn't want to fingerprint my wife for her LTCH when it was optional to go do the electronic ones. I've also contacted their supervisor many years ago when they were telling people it was ok to carry on an expired license. Like paralegals who think they are lawyers, they sometimes forget their level of expertise.

 

[Bigtanker]

This is one reasone to have a few copies at home. When I received my paper license I got a pink peice of paper and made some copies. They reside in my safe and in a filing cabinet.

Not sure what you can do with the new plastic cards.

 

[halfmileharry]

I think the State Office Building would be the place to go for speedier service.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

However, she also told me "Be sure not to carry your firearm until you received your replacement card (up to 6 weeks) as it is illegal for you to carry if you do not have your card with you".

1. Incorrect. (Cut her some slack).

2. When you get a replacement, slap your pink card down on the copier and make white copies to carry in your range bag, your car(s), perhaps one in the safe. Ensure that you tell the cop that "this is a copy, I left the original at home, but I have a LTCH/permit/Larry/whatever."

3. Best practice is to carry your Larry on you. Confused cop=arresty cop.

 

[actaeon277]

I figured this was the case. Idiotic bureaucrats....and this lady WORKED IN THE FIREARMS LICENSE OFFICE!!!

Glad I had INGO to set the record straight.

Well, when there are millions of laws, and hundreds change every year.....

 

[actaeon277]

1. Incorrect. (Cut her some slack).

2. When you get a replacement, slap your pink card down on the copier and make white copies to carry in your range bag, your car(s), perhaps one in the safe. Ensure that you tell the cop that "this is a copy, I left the original at home, but I have a LTCH/permit/Larry/whatever."

3. Best practice is to carry your Larry on you. Confused cop=arresty cop.

Aren't they plastic now?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Yes, but you can copy it too.

 

[SEIndSAM]

Aren't they plastic now?

Yes, but you can copy it too.

Better make copies in triplicate, I heard at the gun shop that the LTCH was going away...



I'm surprised nobody beat me to it.....

 

[BADWOLF]

I took a photograph of my card front and back and keep that stored on my phone