Democrats are afraid of violent backlash

[BloodEclipse]

Hoyer: Members are at risk
By: Jake Sherman
March 24, 2010 03:30 PM EDT
House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer is warning that some of his Democratic colleagues are being threatened with violence when they go back to their districts — and he wants Republicans to stand up and condemn the threats.

The Maryland Democrat said more than 10 House Democrats have reported incidents of threats or other forms of harassment about their support of the highly divisive health insurance overhaul vote. Hoyer emphasized that he didn’t have a specific number of threats and that was just an estimate.

TheFederal Bureau of Investigation, Capitol Police and sergeant at arms briefed Democrats behind closed doors today about the incidents of violence — the most high profile of which have been toward Democratic Reps. Thomas Perriello of Virginia, Steve Driehaus of Ohio and Louise Slaughter of New York.

Hoyer hinted that Republicans should do more to condemn these threats of violence.

“I would hope that we would join together jointly and make it very clear that none of us condone this kind of activity,” Hoyer told reporters. “And when we see it, we speak out strongly in opposition to it. And I would hope that we would do that going forward.”

Rep. Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.), the majority whip, said Democrats and Republicans should continue to speak out on these threats. “Silence gives consent,” Clyburn said.

But Minority Leader John Boehner already has condemned threats of violence — and sought to explain why people are so angry.

“I know many Americans are angry over this health care bill, and that Washington Democrats just aren’t listening,” Boehner said. “But, as I’ve said, violence and threats are unacceptable. That’s not the American way. We need to take that anger and channel it into positive change. Call your congressman, go out and register people to vote, go volunteer on a political campaign, make your voice heard — but let's do it the right way."

A Republican aide also pointed out that over the years Republican members of Congress received their fair share of death threats during volatile times. Newt Gingrich after the 1994 Republican revolution and the late Henry Hyde during the Clinton impeachment in 1998 both received numerous death threats. And just last month, Sen. Jim Bunning (R-Ky.) received death threats after his filibuster of unemployment benefits, according to a report in Roll Call.

Hoyer said steps are being taken to protect members of Congress. Most lawmakers do not have formal security protection, but if any member feels threatened, they will be getting “attention from the proper authorities.”

On Wednesday, the FBI began a preliminary investigation into fuel lines cut at the Virginia home of Perriello’s brother, whose address was posted online — the poster thought it was the lawmaker’s address.

Driehaus said his address was posted Wednesday on a right-leaning blog.



I was always taught that actions had consequences.
The people have been brushed aside in a condescending way. The Lawmakers responsible for this behavior are shocked that citizens are angry?
While I don't advocate violence, it might be a good thing if the members who feel most threatened come to a realization that being dismissive of the will of the people, is not a good thing.
I wonder if it ever crossed their minds, that it might be pissed off Democrats who are making the threats?

 

[caddywhompus]

Interesting read. How can they expect people to be calm about this? It's obvious that there is not enough public support for it. This is somehow news to them?

 

[Manan]

Poor Dems., they did what they wanted and they're still the victims.

 

[smokingman]

Poor Dems., they did what they wanted and they're still the victims.

I have been watching the news on enemy channels lol. "Oh poor us,can you believe people are angry over a bill that helps children?" Oh yea they are playing the victim in all this BS.
*Just to be 100% clear,i feel like I could puke after watching a few hours of msnbc.What total BS they are spewing.Still talking about how this bill is going to save the country,reduce the debt,and...do not forget...save the helpless children.
I have never been part of the Tea Party.This may change that.

 

[Manan]

I have been watching the news on enemy channels lol. "Oh poor us,can you believe people are angry over a bill that helps children?" Oh yea they are playing the victim in all this BS.
*Just to be 100% clear,i feel like I could puke after watching a few hours of msnbc.What total BS they are spewing.Still talking about how this bill is going to save the country,reduce the debt,and...do not forget...save the helpless children.
I have never been part of the Tea Party.This may change that.

I attended my first political meeting a week or so ago. I met with some Libertarians up in Clearwater Creek area. Pami and her husband where there. Very interesting.

 

[BloodEclipse]

Noemie Emery: Congress lags behind public mood

By: Noemie Emery
Examiner Columnist
March 24, 2010



History was made Sunday in several ways. The bill passed is a historical change, and a massive expansion of government. It was also the first major bill to be passed against the will of the country, to be passed by only one part of one party, and in the face of a wave of public revulsion, expressed over 10 months in such different outlets as mass demonstrations, three big elections, and polls.
It was not only not bipartisan, but it was less than one party, in the sense that the great war of passage was the attempt by the leaders to force their members to vote in a way that outraged their constituents, by way of threats, ultimatums and bribes.
It is the first bill whose supporters say they have to sell it now after passage, as they failed so spectacularly to sell it the first time. It is the first whose passage was greeted with cries for repeal by so many mainstream and respected political leaders, the first to be challenged in court right off the bat by two different state governments, with thirty-plus more in the wings.
If this has the sense of a civic rebellion, it is one, and for a good reason: The members of Congress who passed the bill are the constitutionally and legitimately elected representatives of the voters in question, but, at least in this instance, they are legislating consciously and defiantly against those voters' will.
Sen. Ben Nelson, D-Neb., voted for health care, and Nebraska detests it. Sen. Blanche Lincoln, D-Ark., voted for health care, and Arkansas hates it. Massachusetts' two senators were proud sponsors of health care when it passed in December, and three weeks later the state elected Sen. Scott Brown on a pledge to oppose it.
There is a disconnect here between Congress and voters that is causing the system to buckle in places, as voters maneuver and struggle to make themselves heard. Passage increased the debate and the anger, instead of resolving them. They won't be resolved very soon.
Obama and Congress came to us in two "wave" elections, reacting to different events, 2006 came after the worst month in Iraq since the invasion and was the response to it, one year after Katrina and the government's failure to handle it; and it came after a torrent of scandals concerning the Republican Party in Congress.
Do the names Mark Foley, Jack Abramoff, and Tom DeLay ring bells? They should, as revulsion with them is one reason health care is passing.
Another reason health care is passing is the panic and meltdown in the fall of 2008. Iraq had been stabilized, and John McCain led in early September, but the financial implosion changed everything: Independents and swing states swung hard to Obama, leading him in the end to a seven point margin, pickups in purple and red states, and very large gains in the Senate and House.
Congress stayed where it was, but by mid-2009 the independents and swing states had moved back to the center, fleeing Obama and his agenda, while the liberals in office remained. Elections in 2009 would have solved this, but there were just two of them. The rest have to simmer, and wait.
As National Review put it, "The Democratic supermajorities already seem like the product of a passing mood on the part of the public." The mood has passed on, as of July 2009, but the country is stuck with the Congress it brought along with it.
So the voters have taxation with misrepresentation, and discontent and the anger roll on.



Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/Congress-lags-behind-public-mood-88938452.html#ixzz0jAh5k1vh


This article says it all pretty well.

 

[Blue Tile Spook]

Today, in my son's "home-schooling", we were going over world events and the subject of repercussions/consequences came up. We talked about how words and actions DO have power, and part of that is that those words and actions will garner reactions.

Then Beck came on at 5:00 P.M. and they showed a shattered window during one of the updates during a break. The words, "F***, yeah!" were out of my mouth before I realized what I had said.

My son was playing with his Army men on the floor in front of my chair so he most definitely heard my outburst, LOL. I then explained that I don't condone the violence but, just as we had talked earlier, this was a case where words can have consequences. I continued to explain that I don't want to see anyone hurt in either a fit of violence or during an act of property damage, but be careful of what you say/do.

 

[jeremy]

It is a shame that it is considered unacceptable to Tar and feather politicians anymore...
That and the fact Dueling is illegal...

Because without these two events what reason is there for a politician to stay honest?!

 

[chraland51]

If the republicans do as requested by the democraps and join hands with them to condemn the anger of the majority of the citizens of this country, they should be the recipients of the same anger. Vote 'em all out and put back in their place representatives who actually represent the views of the majority. If the republicans sit back and watch 12 to 25 million illegal mexicans become citizens with voting rights and a right to share in the fruits of your labors, all will be lost and we will soon be just like France. I, for one, do not care to be just like France. I have worked too long and too hard to have my retirement re-distributed to those who have not contributed a cent to the system by a socialist president and his communist cronies.

 

[Joe Williams]

The Dems committed treason, and spat in the face of the people. Have they not read the Declaration of Independence? They should be glad that whatever "violence" has occurred, hasn't actually been all that violent. It could be worse. The more they attack the people, the worse it will get. They are throwing out our rights, Sovietizing this nations economy and laws, they held a revolution. I didn't occur to them that there would be a response? Heck, this has been a mild response.

Sorry. No sympathy for them. Traitors, and their families, should pay a price. If they don't like it, they can resign now.

 

[360]

“I would hope that we would join together jointly and make it very clear that none of us condone this kind of activity,” Hoyer told reporters. “And when we see it, we speak out strongly in opposition to it. And I would hope that we would do that going forward.”

Just like they all joined together jointly when it was very clear this bill wasn't supported by even close to HALF of the population, yet they went ahead and flexed their "muscle" to pass it anyway.

hmph...

Call it what you will, but "violence" has ALWAYS been the American way.

 

[Expat]

Well I will give the poor Democrat politicians the same amount of concern that they gave to the Tea Party people when we saw them being roughed up by the SEIU thugs. Remember some old guy even got his finger bitten off by one of them. Then we got to watch the Dems laughing along with the press buddies at the tea bagging references. They sowed the wind and will now reap the whirlwind.

 

[nawainwright]

where is Aaron Burr when you need him

 

[Kirk Freeman]

And, class, who said to get in their faces and punch back twice as hard?

Why does the Left believe that they have some sort of monopoly on protest???

 

[irishfan]

The Dems committed treason, and spat in the face of the people. Have they not read the Declaration of Independence? They should be glad that whatever "violence" has occurred, hasn't actually been all that violent. It could be worse. The more they attack the people, the worse it will get. They are throwing out our rights, Sovietizing this nations economy and laws, they held a revolution. I didn't occur to them that there would be a response? Heck, this has been a mild response.

Sorry. No sympathy for them. Traitors, and their families, should pay a price. If they don't like it, they can resign now.

The Republicans did the same thing in the last administration so I am sure you have no use for that party either. In that case you must be voting strictly third party from here on?

The Dems need to step up and admit that they are getting everything they deserve just like a lot of Pelosi's constituents protested and commited violence and vandalism during Vietnam. It is amazing to me that they expect something that is so controversial to just go right through and all Americans to accept it. In all honesty I am glad that we are seeing masses of people show their outrage and express it publicly such as the Tea Party's and other protests.

 

[jdhaines]

The Dems committed treason, and spat in the face of the people. Have they not read the Declaration of Independence? They should be glad that whatever "violence" has occurred, hasn't actually been all that violent. It could be worse. The more they attack the people, the worse it will get. They are throwing out our rights, Sovietizing this nations economy and laws, they held a revolution. I didn't occur to them that there would be a response? Heck, this has been a mild response.

Sorry. No sympathy for them. Traitors, and their families, should pay a price. If they don't like it, they can resign now.

QFT. If this had occurred at another time in history there would have been hangings, midnight torch raids, and public stonings. These guys should be thanking their lucky stars that this is all they are getting. They happen to have caught American in a time where it has all but forgotten the old ways. Perhaps this will help them remember.

Reminds me of V for Vendetta...my favorite movie. I'm beginning to see why. This is like the early stages of it where people are questioning what is going on.

 

[Indy_Guy_77]

I didn't read through the posted articles... And only casually glanced at a few of the shorter posts this thread contains.

But my FIRST reaction to the title of this thread is "Good. They should be."

-J-

 

[5.56'aholic]

I can honestly say I am not surprised at the violence toward them, or their first reaction to it. Did they really think they were not going to get called out for the stunt they just pulled? We all learned in elementary school that there are consequences to your actions. My advice to them is to get used to it, and grow some thick skin because you just told the majority of the country to f#ck off.

The scary thing is, I fear that this is only the beginning.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

To paraphrase the terrorist, code name "V", people shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of their people.

The temerity to lecture us! The government has reaped the whirlwind and complains about a few windows?

And, class, what did Obama's Kitchen Cabinet do in the 60s and 70s? Did they stop with mere bricks through windows?

Bill Ayers, Obama's close friend and political adviser when Obama lived in his Park View East condo on 54th Street (Hyde Park neighborhood).

 

[mettle]

Hoyer: Members are at risk
By: Jake Sherman
March 24, 2010 03:30 PM EDT
House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer is warning that some of his Democratic colleagues are being threatened with violence when they go back to their districts — and he wants Republicans to stand up and condemn the threats.

The Maryland Democrat said more than 10 House Democrats have reported incidents of threats or other forms of harassment about their support of the highly divisive health insurance overhaul vote. Hoyer emphasized that he didn’t have a specific number of threats and that was just an estimate.

TheFederal Bureau of Investigation, Capitol Police and sergeant at arms briefed Democrats behind closed doors today about the incidents of violence — the most high profile of which have been toward Democratic Reps. Thomas Perriello of Virginia, Steve Driehaus of Ohio and Louise Slaughter of New York.

Hoyer hinted that Republicans should do more to condemn these threats of violence.

“I would hope that we would join together jointly and make it very clear that none of us condone this kind of activity,” Hoyer told reporters. “And when we see it, we speak out strongly in opposition to it. And I would hope that we would do that going forward.”

Rep. Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.), the majority whip, said Democrats and Republicans should continue to speak out on these threats. “Silence gives consent,” Clyburn said.

But Minority Leader John Boehner already has condemned threats of violence — and sought to explain why people are so angry.

“I know many Americans are angry over this health care bill, and that Washington Democrats just aren’t listening,” Boehner said. “But, as I’ve said, violence and threats are unacceptable. That’s not the American way. We need to take that anger and channel it into positive change. Call your congressman, go out and register people to vote, go volunteer on a political campaign, make your voice heard — but let's do it the right way."

A Republican aide also pointed out that over the years Republican members of Congress received their fair share of death threats during volatile times. Newt Gingrich after the 1994 Republican revolution and the late Henry Hyde during the Clinton impeachment in 1998 both received numerous death threats. And just last month, Sen. Jim Bunning (R-Ky.) received death threats after his filibuster of unemployment benefits, according to a report in Roll Call.

Hoyer said steps are being taken to protect members of Congress. Most lawmakers do not have formal security protection, but if any member feels threatened, they will be getting “attention from the proper authorities.”

On Wednesday, the FBI began a preliminary investigation into fuel lines cut at the Virginia home of Perriello’s brother, whose address was posted online — the poster thought it was the lawmaker’s address.

Driehaus said his address was posted Wednesday on a right-leaning blog.



I was always taught that actions had consequences.
The people have been brushed aside in a condescending way. The Lawmakers responsible for this behavior are shocked that citizens are angry?
While I don't advocate violence, it might be a good thing if the members who feel most threatened come to a realization that being dismissive of the will of the people, is not a good thing.
I wonder if it ever crossed their minds, that it might be pissed off Democrats who are making the threats?

MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

REAP THE WHIRLWIND FOOLS!