Kirk Freeman
Grandmaster
kids eating pop-tarts
Only on INGO. HFCS.
kids eating pop-tarts
That should explain it better so the name calling goes no further. I'd prefer this thread not go to that level.
Bob
You obviously didn't read the story.Flea problem, cats misusing litterbox, kids eating pop-tarts = state confiscates children.That's the standard?
Just trying to see if there can be a civil discussion about a real problem.Are the pigs flying?
The argument that CPS should not exist is not equivalent to the claim that 'all parents know how to raise their kids'. I thought that a straw-man for a straw-man was a fair trade. Hypocrisy isn't a 'name', it is the proper label for this.
Child neglect and abuse is a problem. Nobody here will claim that it isn't, at least nobody with any sense. The question isn't whether or not it is a real problem. The question is what should be the solution?
Is another government agency the solution? Fortunately, we have some empirical evidence to answer this question. We can simply look at the antics of this agency that already exists and see if it works. It doesn't. Good parents are punished, bad parents are ignored. Most of us probably know families that are proof of this.
Honestly, if the standard of parenting is cleanliness and attentiveness, then half of Kentucky and a whole lot of southern Indiana would not be allowed to raise children. I think that a better solution is to intervene in each others lives. Friends, family, neighbors...look out for the people and children in your realm of influence. The government can not and will not save the world. We need to take responsibility.
Check, check, check. And my kid has used his half-eaten pop-tart as a firearm. (No kidding.) I must be a horrible parent. Did I mention I homeschool? My kids must be socially inept.Flea problem, cats misusing litterbox, kids eating pop-tarts = state confiscates children.That's the standard?
On INGO?!? Good luck with that!Just trying to see if there can be a civil discussion about a real problem.
I can only hope.
Bob
On INGO kids don't have rights and should not be protected unless they are undeveloped fetuses... then they have all rights. Once they take that first breath they then become 100% expendable at the wish of whomever decided to give birth.
On INGO kids don't have rights and should not be protected unless they are undeveloped fetuses... then they have all rights. Once they take that first breath they then become 100% expendable at the wish of whomever decided to give birth.
I totally agree that CPS, and govt in general, is too big and usually makes a mess of things. However, for all of you govt haters out there, unless you have been in a home and dealt with and seen some of the conditions that I have personnally witnessed, then you need to shut the F&((*( up. There absolutely is a time and a place for govt, CPS, LEO or whoever to step in and remove children. It is all nice and good to say that "the community, family or some non governmental agency" should step in and do something, but that usually doesnt happen. Do I like going on those kinds of calls? Hell no, I dont. But I am not naive enough or blinded my my hate of authority of any kind to think that CPS should be abolished.
You guys amuse me.
It took 2 hours to go down the tubes.
Requesting it be locked.
Bob
INGO is the only place I have ever heard a mother refer to her children as chattel. You have to wonder where they get these ideas.
It took 2 hours to go down the tubes.
Requesting it be locked.
Oh, quit your belly-aching. You opened this thread with a straw-man and got called out for it. This may be a lively discussion, but it's plenty civil for grown ups.