Colt vs. Olympic Arms AR-15

[shooter521]

RRA won A contract with the DEA. So did Colt and another "Tier 1" that slips my mind.

SIG-Sauer, believe it or not! And not for the SIG-556 or -516...

 

[mvician]

This M4 is made by Rock River arms. They beat out COLT and won the contract with the DEA.


Not only is RRA's DEA carbine not an M4, but Rock River didn't beat out anybody in the DEA contract. In fact, Colt and SigArms won a larger piece of the DEA contract than RRA did.

Here are the facts-something you won't find on any of RRA's press releases:

From FBO Daily: (FBO#0582 | 04-Jul-03 | AWD | 10--Weapons)

AWARDS - July 4, 2003

DEA-03-C-0030 - Estimated $115,142,537.00
CARBINE RIFLE
Sigarms, Inc., 18 Industrial Drive, Exeter, N. H. 03833

DEA-03-C-0032 - Estimated $85,923,935.00
CARBINE RIFLE
Rock River Arms, Inc., 1042 Cleveland Road, Colona, Il. 61241

DEA-03-C-0031 - Estimated $113,639,340.00
CARBINE RIFLE
Colt Defense LLC, PO Box 118, Hartford, Ct. 06141


From USDOJ: (http://www.usdoj.gov/jmd/pe/contractlist.htm)

DEA DEA-03-C-0030 Multi-Bureau Sigarms, Inc. 06/20/08 .223 Carbines

DEA DEA-03-C-0031 Multi-Bureau Colt Defense 06/20/08 .223 Carbines

DEA DEA-03-C-0032 Multi-Bureau Rock River Arms 06/20/08 .223 Carbines



CJan_NH
SigArms
Exeter, NH

 

[melensdad]

still waiting

For what?

 

[lovemachine]

I believe that Spikes, Colt, Neveske, DD and BCM are better than Oly, Bushmaster and RRA. I have a RRA myself, and I wish I had waited to get the Spikes instead.

I don't think the average homeowner/gun owner even cares or understands all that mil-spec stuff. I dont understand it either. But I believe that the guy buying an AR from his favorite gun shop wouldn't be selling him something that wouldnt go "bang" when he pulls that trigger. And, so far, my RRA goes "bang" whenever I want it to.
And, for my backyard plinking home go-to gun, my RRA has made me happy.

Isn't that all that matters?

 

[jeremy]

Gasp...
How dare you bring up facts...

I believe that Spikes, Colt, Neveske, DD and BCM are better than Oly, Bushmaster and RRA. I have a RRA myself, and I wish I had waited to get the Spikes instead.

I don't think the average homeowner/gun owner even cares or understands all that mil-spec stuff. I dont understand it either. But I believe that the guy buying an AR from his favorite gun shop wouldn't be selling him something that wouldnt go "bang" when he pulls that trigger. And, so far, my RRA goes "bang" whenever I want it to.
And, for my backyard plinking home go-to gun, my RRA has made me happy.

Isn't that all that matters?

Exactly...

 

[shooter521]

my RRA has made me happy.

Isn't that all that matters?

HELL no! This is the Internet, dammit! There must be drama!

 

[jd4320t]

Can someone please tell me where Stag comes in? I need to know how far from the best I am.

Thanks

 

[lovemachine]

HELL no! This is the Internet, dammit! There must be drama!

It's alright. I really don't know what I'm talking about on this forum. I just like to post worthless crap

 

[jeremy]

It's alright. I really don't know what I'm talking about on this forum. I just like to post worthless crap

Obviously...

 

[dom1104]

This thread is great. People either defend their low quality ARs, or how much they overpaid for the high quality ones was totally worth it.

/popcorn.

 

[lovemachine]

Obviously...

 

[LPPOsecurity]

So what is this chart and where's a link to it?

 

[gunman41mag]

I like my STAG

 

[melensdad]

So what is this chart and where's a link to it?

Chart Explanation/Definition/Disclaimer Link => https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pwswheghNQsEuEhjFwPrgTA&single=true&gid=5&output=html

Chart Link => https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...akp2a3Y2NjMxTEE&single=true&gid=2&output=html

 

[Txlur]

This thread is great. People either defend their low quality ARs, or how much they overpaid for the high quality ones was totally worth it.

/popcorn.

Hahah. True. What is the correct cost of an Ar-15? OTD, mags, ammo, sling, light and all?

 

[abraham743]

i a have a colt target model my buddy has olympic we shoot side by side a lot the olympic performs as well as my colt and was a lot cheaper

 

[melensdad]

i a have a colt target model my buddy has olympic we shoot side by side a lot the olympic performs as well as my colt and was a lot cheaper

To those people who follow the word of "the chart" for all their AR15 decisions I offer up this FACT:

Just so we are all very clear about "the chart" and its usefulness in comparisons like this example, I would point out that Colt target rifles do not rate highly on "the chart" because "the chart" does not apply to those types of rifles.

Not knocking the Colt in any way, just using this as a great illustration of how "the chart" is not applicable in comparisons.

 

[jeremy]

To those people who follow the word of "the chart" for all their AR15 decisions I offer up this FACT:

Just so we are all very clear about "the chart" and its usefulness in comparisons like this example, I would point out that Colt target rifles do not rate highly on "the chart" because "the chart" does not apply to those types of rifles.

Not knocking the Colt in any way, just using this as a great illustration of how "the chart" is not applicable in comparisons.

Good thing I prefer M-4 type AR's then...

 

[Destro]

i a have a colt target model my buddy has olympic we shoot side by side a lot the olympic performs as well as my colt and was a lot cheaper

a colt target model is not the "colt" we are talking about

 

[Destro]

For what?

you to tell me that im uninformed for a 3rd time