CC on or around college campuses (not students)

[FireBirdDS]

As the title indicates, it's general knowledge and in the books of most or all universities around Indiana that students are not permitted to possess weapons on campus. But what about everyone else? Is it against state law for a non-student visitor or pedestrian to conceal carry? And by "against the law" I mean that if discovered you are not just asked to leave, but are arrested, charged, and booked.

 

[Rookie]

It's not against the law for anyone, students included, to carry on a college campus.

 

[nomadicmutt]

Negative.

Although the campus police might think differently. IUPUI campus police is a total joke. Glorified mall cops who had no idea what the laws were.

But legally, no.

 

[Mr. Habib]

It is perfectly legal, but against their rules. If you are ask to leave, for any reason, and do not, you can be sited for trespass. Just like any other business. If you are faculty or staff, you could be fired. If you are a student, you could be expelled.

 

[eldirector]

A college or university can have pretty much whatever policy they want, just like any other business.

However, since they do not meet Indiana's definition of "school", it is not illegal for ANYONE to carry.

Of course, everyone who posted before me already said that!

 

[Valvestate]

What that Habib guy said

 

[Indy_Guy_77]

There may also be certain campus buildings that house daycare centers and the like.

Also there are two high schools that utilize parts of Ball State's campus almost entirely, if not entirely. Ball State may be a VERY sticky wicket legally.

-J-

 

[cp009]

There may also be certain campus buildings that house daycare centers and the like.

Also there are two high schools that utilize parts of Ball State's campus almost entirely, if not entirely. Ball State may be a VERY sticky wicket legally.

-J-

This!

Be very aware of what is housed in the buildings.

I have a question too about this if there is a daycare on university property, but the daycare itself is separated by a public street from the main campus. Is it still illegal?

 

[IndyKiller82]

Summary of the Code of Student Rights, Responsibilities, and Conduct : Student Conduct : IUPUI

Weapons (Part II.H.14)
IUPUI has a zero tolerance practice for weapons. The possession of any weapons, especially guns, is a serious violation and cause for immediate suspension. Guns may not be kept in vehicles when visiting campus.
Example of behavior: Having a gun in a residence hall room or vehicle.

From IUPUI's website. They consider it a violation if you even have it in your vehicle! What a joke!

 

[FireBirdDS]

From IUPUI's website. They consider it a violation if you even have it in your vehicle! What a joke!

What're they gonna do to non-student visitors? "Suspend" them?

 

[IndyKiller82]

What're they gonna do to non-student visitors? "Suspend" them?

Not sure about non-students. But I just thought it was funny that students are in violation if it is in their vehicles. I am grad student there. I guess I've been in violation now for a couple of years! ha!

 

[JettaKnight]

What're they gonna do to non-student visitors? "Suspend" them?

Legally, the worse they can do is demand you leave.

Note I said legally...

 

[actaeon277]

Is IU state run?
Privat orgs can tell you to leave.
But Political subdivisions are not.

 

[eldirector]

Yes, it appears that all State Universities are indeed the State, and not a political subdivision.

 

[TTravis]

I was at IUPUI today CC. Went to visit a friend at IU Hospital there and walked right past the no weapons sign. A year ago I would have been concerned about it, but now I know they can't do anything to me other than ask me to leave.

 

[DC47374]

I'm pretty bummed. IU won't allow me to CC on campus. Too much of a risk to CC and get caught. I couldn't handle being expelled...too much hardwork has already gone in.

 

[handgun]

I am having a problem finding the state code where it defines school as K-12 they may have repealed that.. Please if anyone can find the statue.

 

[canav844]

This!

Be very aware of what is housed in the buildings.

I have a question too about this if there is a daycare on university property, but the daycare itself is separated by a public street from the main campus. Is it still illegal?

I am having a problem finding the state code where it defines school as K-12 they may have repealed that.. Please if anyone can find the statue.

IC 35-47-9
Chapter 9. Possession of Firearms on School Property and School Buses

IC 35-47-9-0.1
Repealed
(Repealed by P.L.63-2012, SEC.78.)

IC 35-47-9-1
Exemptions from chapter
Sec. 1. This chapter does not apply to the following:
(1) A:
(A) federal;
(B) state; or
(C) local;
law enforcement officer.
(2) A person who has been employed or authorized by:
(A) a school; or
(B) another person who owns or operates property being used by a school for a school function;
to act as a security guard, perform or participate in a school function, or participate in any other activity authorized by a school.
(3) A person who:
(A) may legally possess a firearm; and
(B) possesses the firearm in a motor vehicle that is being operated by the person to transport another person to or from a school or a school function.
As added by P.L.140-1994, SEC.11.
IC 35-47-9-2
Possession of firearms on school property, at school function, or on school bus; felony
Sec. 2. A person who possesses a firearm:
(1) in or on school property;
(2) in or on property that is being used by a school for a school function; or
(3) on a school bus;
commits a Class D felony.
As added by P.L.140-1994, SEC.11.

IC 35-31.5-2-285
"School property"
Sec. 285. "School property" means the following:
(1) A building or other structure owned or rented by:
(A) a school corporation;
(B) an entity that is required to be licensed under IC 12-17.2 or IC 31-27;
(C) a private school that is not supported and maintained by funds realized from the imposition of a tax on property, income, or sales; or
(D) a federal, state, local, or nonprofit program or service operated to serve, assist, or otherwise benefit children who are at least three (3) years of age and not yet enrolled in kindergarten, including the following:
(i) A Head Start program under 42 U.S.C. 9831 et seq.
(ii) A special education preschool program.
(iii) A developmental child care program for preschool children.
(2) The grounds adjacent to and owned or rented in common with a building or other structure described in subdivision (1).
As added by P.L.114-2012, SEC.67.

That last bit is what to look out for in terms of daycares and other schools being hidden within a campus (or really anywhere for that matter, work places, the state museum, etc)

 

[inccwchris]

I was at IUPUI today CC. Went to visit a friend at IU Hospital there and walked right past the no weapons sign. A year ago I would have been concerned about it, but now I know they can't do anything to me other than ask me to leave.

Careful with that, IU Hospital and Wishard are in the same building complex as far as I know. Wishard houses inmates for treatment. Therefore Wishard is off limits legally for carry.

 

[Relatively Ninja]

I'm confused... Doesn't CC mean concealed carry? If you're carrying a concealed weapon nobody should know about it.