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    Car full of weapons lands US soldier in Mexican jail
    By ALICIA A. CALDWELL
    Associated Press Writer


    EL PASO, Texas (AP) -- When he crossed the U.S.-Mexico border, Spc. Richard Torres was carrying a small arsenal in his car: an AR-15 assault rifle, a .45-caliber handgun, 171 rounds of ammunition, several cartridges and three knives.
    At a checkpoint, Torres didn't try to hide the weapons. But he insisted he hadn't meant to cross the border with the guns, which in Mexico are restricted for use only by the military. While searching for parking in El Paso, he said, he inadvertently drove onto a bridge leading to Mexico and could not turn around.
    Now the Iraq veteran is in a Mexican jail while a judge decides whether to believe his account: that an experienced soldier accidentally ended up in a border town where drug cartels pay top dollar for exactly the kind of high-powered weapons he happened to have.
    "I want to go home. I just want to go," Torres said last week at the jail in Ciudad Juarez. Prosecutors have said only that the arrest reflected the government's commitment to battling "every type of delinquency and organized crime."
    Torres, 25, said he had been driving all night to get from Fort Hood, in central Texas, to Fresno, Calif., where his mother lives. He planned to celebrate her birthday and put the weapons in storage while he deployed to Honduras to join the war on drugs. The guns were Torres' personal property and not required for his military duties.
    He arrived in El Paso just after sunrise, he said, and decided to park, walk into Ciudad Juarez for breakfast, then get back on the road.
    But during his search for a parking space, a gas station attendant seemed to direct him toward the bridge, Torres said. He crossed the Rio Grande and became concerned when he drove past signs warning him he was about to leave the U.S.
    "Entering Mexico 1/2 mile," one green placard reads.
    "WARNING," a larger sign reads, "ILLEGAL TO CARRY FIREARMS/AMMUNITION INTO MEXICO. PENALTY - PRISON."
    By then, he said, he had passed the only U-turn areas on the bridge, and it was too late to turn around because Torres had driven into vehicle-inspection lanes enclosed by concrete barriers.
    He sought help from a Mexican border guard, who told him he could turn around further into Mexico. But 15 feet later, Mexican federal police stopped his car at a checkpoint. Torres, who does not speak Spanish, said he showed them the guns and his Army ID.
    He was arrested and initially charged with smuggling illegal weapons, as well as possession of restricted guns and cartridges. He said he now faces only the gun-possession charge.
    Court documents in Mexico are not public, and the U.S. consulate is not authorized to discuss his case. When American citizens are accusing of breaking a law in another country, the State Department generally does not intervene except to ensure the foreign government follows its own laws.
    Investigators with the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives concluded that Torres was not smuggling weapons into Mexico to sell them. ATF spokesman Tom Crowley said the agency reported its findings to Mexican authorities.
    A lawyer has been appointed to Torres, but his case is mostly being handled behind closed doors. His Army assignment in Honduras is on hold.
    At the jail, Torres said he sleeps on a thin mat on the floor of his cell, which has a bathroom and shower, that he shares with four other men.
    He said he has managed to win over his cellmates, who have assured him of protection in the violence-plagued jail. They have also offered him food from their visitors, he said. One man loaned him a clean shirt.
    "It's not as bad as the movies make it out to be," Torres said.
    The jail operates on a cash system, and Torres relies on the U.S. consulate to bring him money from his wallet for phone calls or extra food. But that money is rapidly running out.
    Maj. Steven Lamb, a 1st Cavalry Division spokesman, said Torres's absence from the military is not considered to be his fault - but his future remains murky.
    "There are just entirely too many variables," Lamb said.
    Gloria Medina, who raised Torres as a single mother, said he wasn't a good student so she let him finish high school through a home-study program. He then stocked shelves at Wal-Mart and worked in construction before joining the Army two years later.
    He's "grown into a fine young man," Medina said.
    When he is released, Torres hopes to finish the final four years of his Army contract, then go into the tile business with a buddy and take care of his mother.
    "She's been there for everything," Torres said.
     

    Crystalship1

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    I guess for a shi*hole like that... one rifle, one handgun, and 171 rnds. would be an arsenal as compared to how the government supplies it's police officers!!! :cool:

    Man I just hate to see this kind of crap!!! :xmad:

    I hope our government twists some Mexican arms and gets him outta there!!! :rolleyesedit:
     

    dblagent

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    If that constitutes an arsenal then even I am at least a whole platoon, and I bet most here are a full on invading army!
     

    jimbo-indy

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    Notice that when an American breaks a Mexican law, he is jailed. When Mexicans come here illegally, breaking our laws, they are given free food, medical care, education, etc. Let's treat non-citizens who break our laws the same as their home countries treat our citizens. It's only fair as the Mexican police are involved in drug smuggling. That is probably why they are holding him, to keep him out of his anti-drug assignment. Keep this in mind the next time you see groups of people who do not speak English and who don't seem to know the local customs. Are they illegal? Hard to tell but the odds point that way.
     

    lovemywoods

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    Spreading fear and lies

    "Car full of weapons lands US soldier in Mexican jail"

    "When he crossed the U.S.-Mexico border, Spc. Richard Torres was carrying a small arsenal in his car: an AR-15 assault rifle, a .45-caliber handgun, 171 rounds of ammunition, several cartridges and three knives."

    "where drug cartels pay top dollar for exactly the kind of high-powered weapons he happened to have."
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    Look at what is being communicated here to the non-shooting public.

    1. 1 rifle, 1 pistol, and three knives consitute a 'car full of weapons'!
    2. These items constitute an 'arsenal'!
    3. 171 rounds of ammunition is a large amount.
    4. These weapons are classified as 'high-powered'!

    Everyone on this board understands that each of these assertions are comically false. However, the writer if this one article has used this incident to propagate anti-gun untruths into the brains of tens of thousands of people who will accept it as fact.

    We contine to have our jobs cut out for us...to use every opportunity we have to patiently teach people the truth about gun ownership and the reason our founders felt it was so important. Take a non-shooter to the range and explode some myths for them.

    One other thing to consider. You recognize that this story is a gross misrepresentation of the truth. What proportion of media reports on other topics are just as biased and inaccurate?

    lovemywoods
     

    jimbo-indy

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    +1 to "lovemywoods" The press is full of those who speak/write with authority but actually know little about the subject. Ask any pilot about the coverage on an airline accident. If I hear another comment about gasoline regarding a jet airplane I'll have to wrap my head in ducttape to keep form exploding. 171 Rounds of ammo, a large quantity? I took several; time that to the range last Sunday. Not to mention 4 handguns and a carbine (the deadly black kind). That must mean I'm a terrorist or criminal. Never believe anything you hear on the news or from a political figure. The news talkers just show their ignorance in every story they do and the American "sheeple" take it all as gospel truth.
     

    Buckaroo

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    I bet he will be lucky to get out of Mexico anytime soon. He will never see his property (weapons) again but if he can get back to the USA he should thank his lucky stars!!!

    I'd have parked the car and not moved until I was towed back across the bridge. Hell I'd have cut up my plug wires and thrown them in the river! I've been to Juarez and it aint pretty. I bet the inside of a Mexican jail is a lot worse!

    Sure hope he gets home soon!

    Buckaroo
     

    ryanmercer

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    Notice that when an American breaks a Mexican law, he is jailed. When Mexicans come here illegally, breaking our laws, they are given free food, medical care, education, etc. Let's treat non-citizens who break our laws the same as their home countries treat our citizens. It's only fair as the Mexican police are involved in drug smuggling. That is probably why they are holding him, to keep him out of his anti-drug assignment. Keep this in mind the next time you see groups of people who do not speak English and who don't seem to know the local customs. Are they illegal? Hard to tell but the odds point that way.


    You thin they'd scratch our back like we do theirs...

    This is one of the reasons I resigned from USCBP 2 years ago. There is in fact a branch of the Mexican army that has orange uniforms... and they patrol their side of the border, handing out maps of where sensors, watering holes, shelters, and USCBP patrol routes are to people trying to cross into the U.S. In an inter-agency news briefing we got every day we'd see countless articles of guys being under fire on the border... with NO WEAPONS... sometimes by orange uniformed individuals (aka the Mexican army), but we turn our back on it because people want landscapers and orange pickers.

    *sighs*

    I say we all illegally immigrate to Mexico hahaha.

    Better yet, let's go break this guy out!

    No... no... bad ideas.

    I hope he gets out soon, and I hope the Army doesn't turn their back on him when he does get out.
     

    jimbo-indy

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    Think of what American investments could do with Mexico if it were part of the US. We could get ride of Pemex (the Mexican National Oil Co) and let our companies run it properly. Other natural resources would be ours too and we could develop them while making money which translates to more tax revenue. Think of the great resorts without the graft and bad work habits. Of course, all the employers would be subject to our minimum wage, worker safety, anti-pollution and other laws. There would be no need for the Mexicans to come north. They could stay home and have all the benefits. Of course, they would pay our tax rates too.
    When does the expeditionary party leave. Lets finish what should have been done during the first Mexican - American war.
     

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    "EL PASO, Texas (AP) -- When he crossed the U.S.-Mexico border, Spc. Richard Torres was carrying a small arsenal in his car: an AR-15 assault rifle, a .45-caliber handgun, 171 rounds of ammunition, several cartridges and three knives."

    Somebody, please tell me what do they mean with the mention of "several cartridges"? A cartridge is ammunition. Are they talking about magazines??

    99% of the time, the press has no clue of what they speak. H***, I have more ammo than that of just one caliber in my truck most of the time, not to mention the ammo for the rest of the firearms in there!!!

    AB
     

    Gryphon

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    Pathetically, there are an increasing number of American citizens who would like to see America adopt the same prohibitive policies regarding firearms as the oppressive Mexican government has.

    To gun grabbing dweebs, possessing a Brown Bess musket constitutes maintaining an arsenal. :rolleyesedit:
     

    jimbo-indy

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    Notice how a total ban on guns and ammo in Mexico has: A) reduced gun crime, especially by drug cartels B) maintained a corrupt governmental system in power and made the citizens subservient to the whim of the ruling class. You see pickup trucks full of police, armed with M-16's driving around every Mexican city or town. No protest marches there.
     
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