Another safe thread (on a budget)

[Cygnus]

Are these any good?
Looking to spend ~$300. Limitted space and weight requirements (2nd floor apt.). Hoping to put in a closet and bolt to studs.

Dunham's Sports - Hunting Safes: Stack-on 8 Gun Safe


Stack-on 10 Gun Safe - Dick's Sporting Goods


I know these aren;t great but they have to be better than hiding things in random spots to minimize loss using a tool box for handguns ......
Thoughts?

 

[NateIU10]

How much are you looking to store in them? I usually find that their gun counts are a little high, especially if you don't want to cram everything in on top of each other.

 

[Cygnus]

5 long guns. 2 of which are 10/22's
and pistols where I can fit them. The 10 gun one looks like my best option for that.

 

[redneckmedic]

No fire rating on either.

I would look at one from Sam's Club.

 

[Cygnus]

No fire rating on either.

I would look at one from Sam's Club.

I think they may be resistant. I know that only means 15 mminutes.
Also I was going to put the pistols in small fire box inside the Stack-ONS.

I checked out the Sam's club website they are all over $1,200. Maybe they have others in the brick and mortar stores. Any model/brand suggestions?

 

[redneckmedic]

I think they may be resistant. I know that only means 15 mminutes.
Also I was going to put the pistols in small fire box inside the Stack-ONS.

I checked out the Sam's club website they are all over $1,200. Maybe they have others in the brick and mortar stores. Any model/brand suggestions?

I recently looked at the Winchester line, they aren't bad at all... biggest drawback is that the hinges are on the out side. But it goes back to the old..IF they want it, with enough time they will get it. Winchester Safes are just a couple few more hundred dollars more than what you are looking at. Prob. what I am going with.

 

[Cygnus]

I recently looked at the Winchester line, they aren't bad at all... biggest drawback is that the hinges are on the out side. But it goes back to the old..IF they want it, with enough time they will get it. Winchester Safes are just a couple few more hundred dollars more than what you are looking at. Prob. what I am going with.

OK. I'll have to check them out. Do any of them fit in a closet?

Also worrried about the weight as it's on the second floor.

 

[U.S. Patriot]

I used to live on the second floor. I know what you are dealing with. I bought a I believe is a 14 gun stack on. I know it does not have fire protection. However I have extra renters insurance, and pictures/serial numbers of all my guns. I was on a budget at the time too. I mean where I live, someone would have to be stupid to break in and try to break into my cabinent. The stackons are good cabinents. You can buy ones for pistols, that bolt onto the top of the long gun cabinents. Only drawback is carbine size rifles are too short, too rest on the gun rests inside. My AK, and Kel-Tec are leaning against the back.

 

[Cygnus]

I used to live on the second floor. I know what you are dealing with. I bought a I believe is a 14 gun stack on. I know it does not have fire protection. However I have extra renters insurance, and pictures/serial numbers of all my guns. I was on a budget at the time too. I mean where I live, someone would have to be stupid to break in and try to break into my cabinent. The stackons are good cabinents. You can buy ones for pistols, that bolt onto the top of the long gun cabinents. Only drawback is carbine size rifles are too short, too rest on the gun rests inside. My AK, and Kel-Tec are leaning against the back.

Did you have the locker (key) or the combo?

What about stacking some ammo or weights in the bottom so smaller rifles can fit? Or pistol boxes on the bottom?

Do you feel it'll be a deterrent to "regular" theives? (bolted to a wall stud of course)

 

[bw210]

I recently looked at the Winchester line, they aren't bad at all... biggest drawback is that the hinges are on the out side. But it goes back to the old..IF they want it, with enough time they will get it. Winchester Safes are just a couple few more hundred dollars more than what you are looking at. Prob. what I am going with.

I don't understand? Even if the hinges were cut with a torch, the locking bolts would still hold the door in place. Exterior hinges allow 180 degree open radius. This is the only difference between interior and exterior hinges.

 

[CandRFan]

I don't understand? Even if the hinges were cut with a torch, the locking bolts would still hold the door in place. Exterior hinges allow 180 degree open radius. This is the only difference between interior and exterior hinges.

Well that's kind of embarrasing...

I've been looking at safes too...I found myself thinking that I needed to get one with hinges on the inside because I thought if the outside hinges were cut, the door would just fall off.

Maybe I shouldn't have posted that.

 

[bw210]

Well that's kind of embarrasing...

I've been looking at safes too...I found myself thinking that I needed to get one with hinges on the inside because I thought if the outside hinges were cut, the door would just fall off.

Maybe I shouldn't have posted that.

I didn't know that either until I started my quest for the best safe I could afford trip. I must say, the 180 degree open radius is very nice and allows A LOT more room for access than a 90 or even 120 degree door. My safe is rated at 1880 drgree @ 90 min and is quite heavy. With three exterrior hinges, the door popped off and was able to transport seperatly from the body - something to consider depending where your safe is going.

 

[redneckmedic]

I don't understand? Even if the hinges were cut with a torch, the locking bolts would still hold the door in place. Exterior hinges allow 180 degree open radius. This is the only difference between interior and exterior hinges.

Agreed, missed that.

 

[IndyGunworks]

thats ONLY if it has bolts that go into multiple sides, some of which do not....

my concern with the stackon is if not bolted to a stud VERY throughouly all you are doing it packaging up ALL of your guns to be removed in one convenient box... i would say weight is your friend.... from what i have read about the winchesters thats what i would reccomend... buy once cry once, you will thank me in 5 years.

 

[Fenway]

I recent took delivery of a Johnson Safe delivered by...... Jeff Johnson. I went to his shop in Zionsville and saw how he makes them. These safes are of the highest quality.....

The finest materials, fire rated, no short cuts. Made in Indiana by an INGO Site Supporter. I understand they are more money than what you are going to find at a store but the value can not be beat. I think very highly Jeff Johnson and the safes he makes.

Johnson Safe - INGunOwners

 

[Cygnus]

I hear what you guys are saying. I'm just trying to not kill the family below me.
How about the the stackon mounted to the floor???

Maybe the Johnson folks can do me up a smaller custom one fore the longguns.
I can afford a pistol one that will bolt tot he wall as well. or maybe a craftsman chest w/o the wheels full of tools , guns , and weights?
I'm guessing Johnson is in the ad supportes section. I'll check 'em out.


EDIT: Or in the link you provided!

 

[Cygnus]

OK. Pricing and weight out of my league at this point. Looks like a great idea for the future or ground floor living.....

 

[redneckmedic]

I hear what you guys are saying. I'm just trying to not kill the family below me.
How about the the stackon mounted to the floor???

Maybe the Johnson folks can do me up a smaller custom one fore the longguns.
I can afford a pistol one that will bolt tot he wall as well. or maybe a craftsman chest w/o the wheels full of tools , guns , and weights?
I'm guessing Johnson is in the ad supportes section. I'll check 'em out.


EDIT: Or in the link you provided!

I would avoid stackon, they are cheap and crap.

I sent Johnson Safes an email 2 wks ago with the exact idea you have. I told them how much I valued their work, and quality of their product. But it was a little steep for my wallet. Wanted to work out a payment plan, lay a way, or smaller safe. I will let you know their response, when they get back to me.

BTW...Ammo that's your weight!

 

[Cygnus]

I would avoid stackon, they are cheap and crap.

I sent Johnson Safes an email 2 wks ago with the exact idea you have. I told them how much I valued their work, and quality of their product. But it was a little steep for my wallet. Wanted to work out a payment plan, lay a way, or smaller safe. I will let you know their response, when they get back to me.

BTW...Ammo that's your weight!

Very nice RNM! I await their reply to you. Maybe if they made 2 it would be cheaper on them and us????

 

[Fenway]

Best way to get in touch with Jeff Johnson is the phone.

317-876-7233

Jeff doesn't get along well with computers.