‘This isn’t working’: Head of ISP calls for complete review of Marion County judicial system

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Indy man arrested for allegedly ramming into police car during traffic stop

INDIANAPOLIS — An Indy man is in custody after allegedly ramming his vehicle into an IMPD patrol car during a traffic stop on the city’s near southeast side Friday night. According to a…

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[TheGrumpyGuy]

Maybe tar and feathers should become a thing once again...

 

[SheepDog4Life]

‘Clerical error’ causes quick release of man accused of repeatedly ramming IMPD cars

INDIANAPOLIS — For the fourth time in recent years, an Indianapolis man has been arrested and accused of ramming a police squad car to try and escape arrest. The case, combined with the suspe…

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Catch... release...

Rinse... repeat...

Broken system.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

‘Clerical error’ causes quick release of man accused of repeatedly ramming IMPD cars

INDIANAPOLIS — For the fourth time in recent years, an Indianapolis man has been arrested and accused of ramming a police squad car to try and escape arrest. The case, combined with the suspe…

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Catch... release...

Rinse... repeat...

Broken system.

Waiting for someone to say that the $45K bond was too high anyway and the $4500 bond was "according to bond schedule".

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

Clerical error my ass. If your employees can't read, up the hiring standards.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Clerical error my ass. If your employees can't read, up the hiring standards.

Seems like there have been a few in a short period of time. Like deleting the holding charges and letting prisoners walk free... stuff like that.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

Seems like there have been a few in a short period of time. Like deleting the holding charges and letting prisoners walk free... stuff like that.

Like one of my old school Sergeants used to say, "Pay burger-flipping wages, get burger-flippers." MCSO isn't known (since the merge) for hiring top tier candidates.

 

[thunderchicken]

Clerical error my ass. If your employees can't read, up the hiring standards.

Yes, but the other problem might be the pay level may limit the quality of applicants.

 

[thunderchicken]

Like one of my old school Sergeants used to say, "Pay burger-flipping wages, get burger-flippers." MCSO isn't known (since the merge) for hiring top tier candidates.

Precisely what I was getting at

I've seen some wild applicants where I'm at and seen some well qualified people walk away when you start talking pay rates

Even pre merger non LEO pay rates at MCSO was never very competitive. But back then the benefits sorat helped balance things out

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

Yes, but the other problem might be the pay level may limit the quality of applicants.

Sounds like a management problem to me.

 

[bwframe]

It's a management problem for sure.

Doubling the pay rate won't matter if staff is not held accountable for their actions.

If someone is not fired or reprimanded for repeated bad performance, pay rate is irrelevant.

 

[thunderchicken]

Sounds like a management problem to me.

True to an extent. As you said pay burger flipper wages you get burger flipper work quality. Skilled workers aren't cheap and cheap workers aren't skilled.

 

[thunderchicken]

It's a management problem for sure.

Doubling the pay rate won't matter if staff is not held accountable for their actions.

If someone is not fired or reprimanded for repeated bad performance, pay rate is irrelevant.

Seems like I've seen many stories of clerical errors or mistakes that have amounted to people being fired for these issues. Similar situations have happened many times with MCSO employees over the years.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Seems like there have been a few in a short period of time. Like deleting the holding charges and letting prisoners walk free... stuff like that.

That appears to be a flawed software issue. It was reported that they were deleting "Extra" charges because he was showing up repeatedly in lists. They were trying to clean up the list so it was only one instance of each prisoner on the list. Then the destination agency decided to drop the charges on the remaining charge, which caused their database to update and appear that he was no longer being charged and needed to be released.

A simple software tweak to sort by offenders with an option to click a pop-out to see what they were being held for specifically would have fixed that.

And dont forget making it so that a low level clerk cant remove charges, and that a supervisor, or hell, maybe the Sheriff himself needs to sign off on the decision. Hell, Walmart et al can figure out how to require a supervisor override, so it cant be that hard. LOL

 

[TheGrumpyGuy]

That appears to be a flawed software issue. It was reported that they were deleting "Extra" charges because he was showing up repeatedly in lists. They were trying to clean up the list so it was only one instance of each prisoner on the list. Then the destination agency decided to drop the charges on the remaining charge, which caused their database to update and appear that he was no longer being charged and needed to be released.

A simple software tweak to sort by offenders with an option to click a pop-out to see what they were being held for specifically would have fixed that.

And dont forget making it so that a low level clerk cant remove charges, and that a supervisor, or hell, maybe the Sheriff himself needs to sign off on the decision. Hell, Walmart et al can figure out how to require a supervisor override, so it cant be that hard. LOL

You're going off the assumption that they use computers for this and aren't still working from 3x5 index cards...

 

[Kirk Freeman]

‘Clerical error’ causes quick release of man accused of repeatedly ramming IMPD cars

INDIANAPOLIS — For the fourth time in recent years, an Indianapolis man has been arrested and accused of ramming a police squad car to try and escape arrest. The case, combined with the suspe…

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Catch... release...

Rinse... repeat...

Broken system.

Law enforcement (Sheriff) released him. Who didn't call the DPA so that his bond would be revoked? Law enforcement.

There is a deputy prosecutor with a phone 24 hours a day. All of IMPD brass as the phone number of the telephone for the Chief Deputy Prosecuting Attorney. If Leachman is such a threat why aren't IMPD bosses shooting off flares by calling MCPA bosses?

His bond was later revoked on F5-6404 on November 6th, a Monday.

Mechanisms exist for law enforcement to request that defendants have their bonds raised or revoked, yet when law enforcement (some, not all) drops the football "the system" is broken.

Nonsense. More behind covering from brass hats at IMPD (perhaps not all) who want to destroy the right to bond in 2024 General Assembly.

This is, yet again, IMPD bosses screaming wolf when they ignore that they are the problem and "the system" becomes a scape goat.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

"Freeman, all you do is object and be sarcastic, witty and charming and be tremendously handsome as well, you were inside all this, what's a solution?"

Ok, if you want my solution (Most of Sane INGO: Noooooo!), here it is:

There are 18,723 DPAs at MCPA, some working out of state (e.g. XPs), task 2 or 3 of them to report to filing section (or do it at home) to review all new arrests: are they are probation? are they on bond? are they on the sex offender registry (out of bounds)? Etc.? They make NO filing decisions, ONLY file bond revocations and PTRPs, that's it. Screening comes later, or concurrently.

This is BEFORE any charges are filed, just one a step on the flow chart to ask about those questions before screening raises a finger.
Most of this could be done with paralegals, not even have to use DPAs (just to review what paralegals find). Also these DPAs would go out to IMPD sub-stations and meet and greet. Give our cell phone number to that unit's supervisor/SGT (whatever). Let IMPD, Sheriff, Constable of Pike Township, Crow's Nest, inter alia who they are and what they do.

If there is a repeat offender on the hook, this section gets a call and someone is filing a motion to revoke bond or probation, then and there, not later. Won't hit odyssey until 0800 but at least it will be in the hopper.

If this is a priority for LE (and cops may have legit beef with some knuckleheads), make it a priority at 151 East Ohio. There is your "accountablility". There is your fix for a "broken system". There is the respect for the value of the right to bail.

I am frustrated by LE (some) stating incorrectly that there is no fix. Mears could fix this with a snap of his fingers. The law allows the PA enormous legal power as the CLEO of Marion County. This is a zero cost solution which respects the rights of all Hoosiers and focuses fire on those who need to be focused upon.

 

[yeahbaby]

It's a management problem for sure.

Doubling the pay rate won't matter if staff is not held accountable for their actions.

If someone is not fired or reprimanded for repeated bad performance, pay rate is irrelevant.

Yep, I've seen workers making $40 an hour and doing s**t work. Not being held accountable. Ridiculous.

 

[bwframe]

Yep, I've seen workers making $40 an hour and doing s**t work. Not being held accountable. Ridiculous.

The same as believing that the UAW employees will be producing 25% more cars, now that they have gotten a 25% raise?

 

[SheepDog4Life]

Law enforcement (Sheriff) released him.

The implication of this statement is that the Sheriff could have kept him in custody once he or his bondman paid the surety bond recorded. I.e. not released him.

Seriously?

I don't think either of us want that to be the case.

Who didn't call the DPA so that his bond would be revoked? Law enforcement.

Who represented the people in the bail/bond hearing? DPA? MCPA's office?

There is a deputy prosecutor with a phone 24 hours a day. All of IMPD brass as the phone number of the telephone for the Chief Deputy Prosecuting Attorney. If Leachman is such a threat why aren't IMPD bosses shooting off flares by calling MCPA bosses?

Why is the MCPA letting this person out under a "regular" bond schedule?

His bond was later revoked on F5-6404 on November 6th, a Monday.

What's the over/under on the number of LEOs he'll crash into re-apprehending this POS.

Mechanisms exist for law enforcement to request that defendants have their bonds raised or revoked, yet when law enforcement (some, not all) drops the football "the system" is broken.

Or, the MCPA can do their job and make the case before the court.

IANAL nor a LEO... what is this mechanism for LEO to be recognized before the court unless called upon by the prosecutor?

Nonsense. More behind covering from brass hats at IMPD (perhaps not all) who want to destroy the right to bond in 2024 General Assembly.

Nonsense... MCPA had his *** hanging out on this one and did what his office should have done upfront... asked for no bail given this POS's repeated acts.

This is, yet again, IMPD bosses screaming wolf when they ignore that they are the problem and "the system" becomes a scape goat.

I'm seeing this as the "regular" bond schedule would have let him out with the same $4500 he posted...

So yeah, IMO, the system (courts/prosecutors/schedule) is broken.