Titanium_Frost
Grandmaster
Ok, so yesterday I woke up at 3am Central time to get on the road at 4am CDT to make it to Guy's class at Eagle Creek Pistol range at 9am EDT... I didn't get back home until about 9pm CDT... My butt was wore out! So I'm just getting around to posting this update this morning.
This was an incredibly full day and I honestly believe it could encompass 2 days up to a week straight of 8 hour classroom days and still feel like we were rushing it. There is just so much information, hypotheticals, and real life scenarios that anyone is going to learn a
ton more than they did before they went in.
I get PMs all the time from members asking if I have a pocket guide book to Indiana Code or Case laws and while I do not, one could easily be gleaned from this class. We had around 20 very important case laws thrown at us that sometimes changed and other times clarified what Indiana law had said about it previously.
I have never been to a class of any sort that had as up to date information as this. We were discussing laws and court cases from just a few months prior and even several cases that are still in courts or pending trial. That takes a HUGE amount of time and dedication from Guy. BTW it is very obvious that he is doing this because he loves it, he put hundreds of hours in the initial course and every single time he teaches it he spends several more hours updating and changing his course for all the new case laws and legislation that passed since the last time.
He also takes time out for questions and discussion including overly specific scenarios
(thanks Mrs Vert) and also other scenarios that help to reinforce the information we just learned.
As for the content, I would have to say the class lies somewhere between a basic course, and advanced in the realm of law. It certainly helps to study and have at least a basic knowledge before attending so you can focus on the many facts that are not as easily obtained with practicing law for 29 years- which happens to be longer than I have been alive.
But seriously even if you know nothing of Indiana law or even law in general, this is an absolutely invaluable class and for the price, it could actually save you thousands more and even your life or your freedom one day should you be put in a place to use your firearm to protect your life, or the life of someone else.
Do you need this course? Ask yourself a few questions:
Do I know without a doubt when I can use deadly force in Ind? Do I know when I am legally authorized to POINT a firearm at someone? Do I know the difference?
Do I know how case law affects me and how it differs from Indiana Code?
Do I know when it is legally allowable to transfer a firearm to someone? Do I know the difference between selling, transferring, possession, and allowing in Ind law? All of these terms have different definitions and meet different requirements in Ind Law and knowing the difference means the difference between being a law abiding citizen and a criminal in some cases.
Do you know the difference between how Federal law treats 'handguns' and Indiana does?
Did you know that there are places in this state where it is not necessary for you to knowingly take or possess a firearm yet are felonies?
Guy and myself are going to be working on getting a class together for Southern Indiana soon, so if you have any interest in taking probably one of the most valuable days of education I have had then give Guy or myself a shout and we can start narrowing down dates and locations.
This was an incredibly full day and I honestly believe it could encompass 2 days up to a week straight of 8 hour classroom days and still feel like we were rushing it. There is just so much information, hypotheticals, and real life scenarios that anyone is going to learn a
ton more than they did before they went in. I get PMs all the time from members asking if I have a pocket guide book to Indiana Code or Case laws and while I do not, one could easily be gleaned from this class. We had around 20 very important case laws thrown at us that sometimes changed and other times clarified what Indiana law had said about it previously.
I have never been to a class of any sort that had as up to date information as this. We were discussing laws and court cases from just a few months prior and even several cases that are still in courts or pending trial. That takes a HUGE amount of time and dedication from Guy. BTW it is very obvious that he is doing this because he loves it, he put hundreds of hours in the initial course and every single time he teaches it he spends several more hours updating and changing his course for all the new case laws and legislation that passed since the last time.
He also takes time out for questions and discussion including overly specific scenarios
(thanks Mrs Vert) and also other scenarios that help to reinforce the information we just learned.As for the content, I would have to say the class lies somewhere between a basic course, and advanced in the realm of law. It certainly helps to study and have at least a basic knowledge before attending so you can focus on the many facts that are not as easily obtained with practicing law for 29 years- which happens to be longer than I have been alive.
But seriously even if you know nothing of Indiana law or even law in general, this is an absolutely invaluable class and for the price, it could actually save you thousands more and even your life or your freedom one day should you be put in a place to use your firearm to protect your life, or the life of someone else.
Do you need this course? Ask yourself a few questions:
Do I know without a doubt when I can use deadly force in Ind? Do I know when I am legally authorized to POINT a firearm at someone? Do I know the difference?
Do I know how case law affects me and how it differs from Indiana Code?
Do I know when it is legally allowable to transfer a firearm to someone? Do I know the difference between selling, transferring, possession, and allowing in Ind law? All of these terms have different definitions and meet different requirements in Ind Law and knowing the difference means the difference between being a law abiding citizen and a criminal in some cases.
Do you know the difference between how Federal law treats 'handguns' and Indiana does?
Did you know that there are places in this state where it is not necessary for you to knowingly take or possess a firearm yet are felonies?
Guy and myself are going to be working on getting a class together for Southern Indiana soon, so if you have any interest in taking probably one of the most valuable days of education I have had then give Guy or myself a shout and we can start narrowing down dates and locations.
in reply to Titanium Frost's post. I just completed the August 25 session of Guy's Indiana Comprehensive Gun Law Seminar. Everything Titanium said is spot on correct!
