and apparently i can't finish my thought in that previous post. I am a strong proponent of personal rights but I do understand and appreciate that LEOs must protect themselves first and foremost. For someone to wish to "push buttons" and unnecessarily cause tension in a traffic stop when it could simply be solved by saying "yes I do have a gun" (even if it may be perceived as infringing on one's rights) is foolish. I get the impression that you do respect personal privacy rights which is sometimes uncommon among LEOs and if someone is acting directly defiant I can see and understand how that would pique interest. Also kudos for handling the name calling well. Some people just like to be difficult i suppose.