shooter521
Certified Glock Nut
As many of you already know, I completed Pat Rogers/EAG's Pistol Level 2 course earlier this week. It was to be immediately followed by a Carbine Operator's Course, so Pat had all of his ancillary gear there, including the SCAR-16S that he is currently wringing out. The pistol class got to examine it up-close and ask questions during lunch break on TD2.
Overall, the SCAR feels a lot better than it looks. It is quite a bit lighter than a comparably-equipped M4, due to the lightweight barrel and the extensive use of polymers in the lower. Pat also said the SCAR was more accurate than the M4, holding around 2MOA out to 600 yards. The stock, while not bomb-proof, doesn't feel as flimsy as some might lead you to believe. There's a little bit of flex in the adjustable cheekpiece, but I liken it to the wobble/rattle of some collapsible AR stocks - a minor annoyance, nothing more. The sight line is a little higher than an M4. While this would mean more holdover at close ranges, I didn't have any problem using the irons or optics. Control placement is fine (those with small hands/short fingers may disagree), and the 45-degree selector throw is a friggin' godsend. It could use full-length side rails to accommodate a sling mount and a white light on the left side. I don't care for the HK hook sling mounts, regardless of WHAT gun they're on.
Unfortunately, I didn't get to shoot it. Pat likened the recoil sensation to "a cement truck going through a tunnel" - you can feel that big heavy bolt carrier travel through the entire length of its cycle. Not uncomfortable, but something to get used to, especially if you're used to a DI AR-15/M-16 type system. As discussed in another thread (https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/long_guns/4706-new_rifle_designs-3.html#post471039), he also said the military guns are eating AN/PEQ-15 visible/IR lasers and white lights, due to the nature of the recoil system - much the same way an airgun can eat optics designed for high-powered rifles. He'd had an Aimpoint Micro T-1 mounted on this gun for a documented 1854 rounds, and reported no problems with the optic itself. His gun was also set up with the TangoDown Battlegrip and stubby VFG, the Gemtech Bi-Lock flash hider/suppressor mount, and a VTAC sling. Nice package overall.
Pat said he thought the SCAR was a good gun, but at this point would not take one over an M4 if he was going to war and was given a choice between the two platforms.
This was an interesting exercise and opportunity, but even if/when the guns become more available and affordable, I won't be buying one. Pat did buy his, however. He said he paid about what one would pay for a Noveske AR - that is, a fraction of the stratospheric prices the SCARs are currently commanding, and probably well below the stated MSRP of $2700. It must be good to be King.
Overall, the SCAR feels a lot better than it looks. It is quite a bit lighter than a comparably-equipped M4, due to the lightweight barrel and the extensive use of polymers in the lower. Pat also said the SCAR was more accurate than the M4, holding around 2MOA out to 600 yards. The stock, while not bomb-proof, doesn't feel as flimsy as some might lead you to believe. There's a little bit of flex in the adjustable cheekpiece, but I liken it to the wobble/rattle of some collapsible AR stocks - a minor annoyance, nothing more. The sight line is a little higher than an M4. While this would mean more holdover at close ranges, I didn't have any problem using the irons or optics. Control placement is fine (those with small hands/short fingers may disagree), and the 45-degree selector throw is a friggin' godsend. It could use full-length side rails to accommodate a sling mount and a white light on the left side. I don't care for the HK hook sling mounts, regardless of WHAT gun they're on.
Unfortunately, I didn't get to shoot it. Pat likened the recoil sensation to "a cement truck going through a tunnel" - you can feel that big heavy bolt carrier travel through the entire length of its cycle. Not uncomfortable, but something to get used to, especially if you're used to a DI AR-15/M-16 type system. As discussed in another thread (https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/long_guns/4706-new_rifle_designs-3.html#post471039), he also said the military guns are eating AN/PEQ-15 visible/IR lasers and white lights, due to the nature of the recoil system - much the same way an airgun can eat optics designed for high-powered rifles. He'd had an Aimpoint Micro T-1 mounted on this gun for a documented 1854 rounds, and reported no problems with the optic itself. His gun was also set up with the TangoDown Battlegrip and stubby VFG, the Gemtech Bi-Lock flash hider/suppressor mount, and a VTAC sling. Nice package overall.
Pat said he thought the SCAR was a good gun, but at this point would not take one over an M4 if he was going to war and was given a choice between the two platforms.
This was an interesting exercise and opportunity, but even if/when the guns become more available and affordable, I won't be buying one. Pat did buy his, however. He said he paid about what one would pay for a Noveske AR - that is, a fraction of the stratospheric prices the SCARs are currently commanding, and probably well below the stated MSRP of $2700. It must be good to be King.
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