Walther PPS vs Keltec PF9 at the Range

[viiiupndhead]

A picture is worth a thousand rounds.... First day at the range with the new PPS. Performed as expected, but this picture had to be shared. WWB rapid fire at 10 yards. Target paper is 8 1/2 x 11. No problems in first 150 rounds through the PPS.

[/IMG]

 

[Lobo]

.

 

[22rssix]

Nice group. The PPS is a sweet shooter.




I have got to try 3 different PPS guns in 40sw. I am not a fan of the 40sw round, but with this gun I am hooked. I want to buy one but funds are tight and it will be a while before I can get one.

 

[viiiupndhead]

I saw them at the last Fort Wayne gun show for $569 If the wife likes it, there will be another in the family soon.

 

[leedawg77]

Pretty similar to what I see with my Sig vs Keltec. Keltec is reliable, but I hate the sights on it.

 

[dom1104]

I opened this thread thinking "Gee I wonder which one will do better".

I was not surprised.

Shootin is always fun!

 

[valposhooter]

is it worth buying a keltec

 

[farva118]

is it worth buying a keltec

Absolutely. But if you can afford the PPS, I would lean towards that direction. Just my opinion.

 

[Regionnus Rattis]

is it worth buying a keltec

Why would it be not worth it? You have to base a decision based on your own requirements and shooting ability...not someone else's.

I carry either a PF-9, a P-11 or sometimes an LCP...and not worried about it.

 

[BearArms]

I have a PPS in .40 and I love it. It is my edc and right now it is a pocket gun (bib carhartts for winter). But when its not cold it is iwb. I have not had any problems out of mine. Mine was my college graduation present to myself.

 

[shibumiseeker]

I love my PPS in .40, but as I write in this thread:
https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/handguns/72413-walther_pps_40s_and_w_range_report.html

it took me a while to be able to shoot it well, in spite of the fact that I can shoot my Glocks and my target pistols really well.

Now a few thousand rounds later it's comfortable to my hand, but it took a long time to get the body memory down.

 

[leedawg77]

Kel-Tec

is it worth buying a keltec

I do think Kel-Tecs are well worth the money. My only gripe about mine is that I am not the fondest of the sights. I used a bullet laser to test my sights and they were off a very slight amount. I am no expert marksman either, so it could be shooter error. Kel-Tecs tend to be very reliable compared to others in that price range. You will find plenty of positive reviews on them on YouTube, etc. They have a following.

 

[Regionnus Rattis]

I do think Kel-Tecs are well worth the money. My only gripe about mine is that I am not the fondest of the sights. I used a bullet laser to test my sights and they were off a very slight amount. I am no expert marksman either, so it could be shooter error. Kel-Tecs tend to be very reliable compared to others in that price range. You will find plenty of positive reviews on them on YouTube, etc. They have a following.

Kel-Tec PF-9's and P-11's are close quarters (i.e. conversational distance) self-defense pistols and most likely in those situations you are not going to be using the sights at such a close range.

If you want to see really tiny sights, the LCP are mere bump integrated into the slide

 

[valposhooter]

is a p3at 380 too light

 

[WaltherFan]

As you can see by my screen name, I love Walthers. I've found my PPS is easier to carry than my PPK. In 40, it's a bit snappy to shoot, but I would never part with it!! I also have all three clips sizes for it.

 

[shibumiseeker]

IBT"IAMNAC"!!!

 

[xdmstu]

I just don't understand how Walther can make the timeless and beautiful looking PPKS... and then also create the ungainly looking PPS?

Why, oh why can't they make a slightly up-sized PPK in 9mm? (Old question I know...) Or simply a better looking PPS in 9 and 40?

It sounds like it shoots better than it looks I guess.

 

[wolfts01]

I am currently in the process of choosing my very first gun, and it boiled down to these two pistols in 9mm due to their slimness and ease of carry. I was leaning towards the PPS for its extra safety features, better mag release, better trigger, and better name, but now I am fully decided.

For some reason when I searched the site for "PPS" I got nothing, but thankfully Google got me here before I did something embarrassing like starting a PPS vs PF-9 thread of my own. I'm glad to see such positive reviews of the PPS; it seems like it is largely overlooked. People seem to recommend the Kel-Tec or the Kahr PM9 without even thinking of the PPS.

I go in tomorrow to get electronically fingerprinted for my LTCH, and hopefully I can get a reasonably priced PPS at the Jan 8-9 gun show at the Coliseum in Fort Wayne.

Thanks for the information, it has definitely helped me make up my mind.

BTW, can anyone recommend a good holster for carrying the PPS concealed?

 

[phatgemi]

is a p3at 380 too light

Not if you need to have something in a small pocket. Very handy little piece....

 

[451_Detonics]

Why would it be not worth it? You have to base a decision based on your own requirements and shooting ability...not someone else's.

I carry either a PF-9, a P-11 or sometimes an LCP...and not worried about it.

Just because the OP didn't shoot the Kel Tec well doesn't mean it won't shoot well for someone else. Unless the comparison shooting is done in a Ransom Rest or similar device it is not a true representation of accuracy. I will say given the cost of the PPS over that of the PF-9 I would expect a small increase in accuracy but the PF-9 is more than adequate for the job.

The PF-9 is also smaller in all dimension as well as being lighter making it much more friendly in the pocket. Even with an extra mag in the pocket holster this set up easily fits in the pocket of my carpenter and loose fit jeans.

As far as the parts breakage in the PF-9...I haven't had any problem with mine in several thousand rounds, neither has the half dozen or so I know of in the hands of friends. Like many new guns these days the first run did have some issues, much like the Ruger LCP but that was quite some time ago and those issues have been corrected. I have heard from a couple friends of mine about the spring on the PPS slide release coming off and locking the slide, this has happened to two friends of mine but these were early guns...perhaps the issue has been addressed and fixed by now.

I bought the PF-9 strictly as a pocket BUG, I have considered the PPS but it was large enough it was too difficult to get out of my pocket without a struggle, the PF-9 is the largest I am able to deploy in a reasonable manner. The Pf-9 is very worthy of purchase and I would suggest trying both not only in hand but try to see if they will carry well in the manner you plan on before buying either.