I'm reposting this here from opencarry.org since this site is more local.
September 2nd
We are currently moving and since I've been spending a lot of time at storage and at the other house late at night and alone, I've been carrying my LC9 with me. I usually carry it anyway, I just made it a point this time. On Friday I picked my son up from daycare and was going to take him to the library to keep him out of my wife's way while she got some boxes packed. I put my son on my shoulders and started to walk into the doors. I have my LC9 in a waistband holster and I carry it up front. Immediately on the other side of the door was an APD officer. When the door opened he looked down, looked at me, and asked if I had my permit. I produced the permit for him and he asked if the address is correct, I said yes. I expected him to ask for my ID (I wasn't going to give it to him) but he didn't. That actually surprised me a lot. He handed my permit back and and said he would like it if I would conceal it while I was in the library so it doesn't 'freak people out.' I didn't have the chance to tell him I wasn't going to conceal it because he immeadiatly said the library closes in 10 minutes. I forgot they close early on Friday so I just told him that I forgot about that and I was going to just leave. I was really surprised at how professional he was about it and that he didn't keep harassing me or say something like the gun wasn't allowed in the library.
Later that night we were moving some stuff on the trailer and a friend of mine was helping me. We stopped at the gas station to get drinks and fuel. There was a Sheriff parked in the lot and he was standing in the store talking to the clerk. I looked at my friend and said, 'this probably isn't going to go well.' We went in and he noticed the gun right away but didn't say anything. I nodded and said 'morning' to both of them and walked away from them towards the candy. Then I walked past the Sheriff again to get my drink. When I went up to the counter to pay for the stuff the Sheriff asked me if that was a LC9 I was carrying. I said yes and he asked me to take it out so he could see it. I said, 'yeah that sounds like a good idea, pull a gun out with a cop standing next to me.' He got a chuckle out of that and I took it out to show it to him. We ended up having a conversation for 10 minutes about guns and the ammo we like to shoot from them. He never asked for my permit or ID.
Looking back I should have gotten their names and put in a call to inform their supervisors about how good of a job they did. If I see them again I will make sure to do that.
After reading some stories and watching some videos on You Tube I expected to get beaten up or something.
September 4th
So I just took my wife to Community Hospital in Anderson to get some blood work done. On the way out, an Indiana Sheriff and a plain clothes cop were waiting at the exit. They asked me to step outside (I was on my out the door) and then the plain cop said, "Don't you know that isn't concealed?", referring to my holstered LC9 in my waistband. I said, "Yes, I carry open and concealed weapons aren't allowed at the hospital." Then I pointed towards the sticker on the door with a gun and a 'no' sign on it with the words "NO CONCEALED GUNS' written on it. They then asked for my concealed carry permit. I told them it isn't a concealed permit, it is a license to carry a handgun. I produced the permit and they discussed weather or not it should have my finger print on it. I told them it was only a few months old and that I had my prints done electronically and that my permit looks like the example on the ISP website. The sheriff then asked me for my ID. I told him I would rather not give it to him. He said I was required to. I then told him that would constitute a search and the 4th amendment says I don't have to give my ID unless they have reasonable suspicion that I committed a crime. The city cop said they had reasonable suspicion since I was carrying a gun. I asked 'of what' and then my wife told me to just give them my ID. She then took the keys to the car and left to go make an appointment in the other building. They said they had to make sure that license was mine and I told them that Indiana Code says that I only have to present my license to carry and says nothing about giving my ID. I asked if I was being detained, they said no, then Sheriff then says in a threatening manner, "I won't ask for your ID again." I asked the city cop if he was APD, he said no that he worked for Lenard (I can't find this city or county) and I asked him if he was even in his jurisdiction which he replied that it doesn't matter, he has arrest powers no matter where he is. Too keep my wife happy I gave them my ID, although I was going to let them arrest me because a fiasco is the only way guys like this learn what the law really is. After they look at my ID they give both items back. I ask them both if they have a card. The Sheriff says that I don't need his card. I tell him that I want to file a complaint and he produces a card. The city cop says he doesn't have cards. I ask for his name and badge number, he rattles them off quickly and I tell him that I would like to write that down and asked if he had a pen. He said that I should have thought of that. So, I hurry to the car and find a pen and write down the info he gave me.
I call the Sheriffs office in Anderson and was told that I couldn't file a complaint about their reserve officer because he wasn't working for the department at the time. I still have no ideal who to call about the other guy since I can't find any information about a Lenord city or county. I do have his last name and badge number, assuming they are right. I went to complain to the Community security supervisor and they Sheriff came out. He sat down next to me with his form and I said, "Is your supervisor here?", he said no. I then said, "Don't you think it would be a conflict of interest for you to take this complaint?" He said, "I guess so." I asked for the supervisors name and number. I left a voice mail for him, we'll see what happens if I get a call back.
September 2nd
We are currently moving and since I've been spending a lot of time at storage and at the other house late at night and alone, I've been carrying my LC9 with me. I usually carry it anyway, I just made it a point this time. On Friday I picked my son up from daycare and was going to take him to the library to keep him out of my wife's way while she got some boxes packed. I put my son on my shoulders and started to walk into the doors. I have my LC9 in a waistband holster and I carry it up front. Immediately on the other side of the door was an APD officer. When the door opened he looked down, looked at me, and asked if I had my permit. I produced the permit for him and he asked if the address is correct, I said yes. I expected him to ask for my ID (I wasn't going to give it to him) but he didn't. That actually surprised me a lot. He handed my permit back and and said he would like it if I would conceal it while I was in the library so it doesn't 'freak people out.' I didn't have the chance to tell him I wasn't going to conceal it because he immeadiatly said the library closes in 10 minutes. I forgot they close early on Friday so I just told him that I forgot about that and I was going to just leave. I was really surprised at how professional he was about it and that he didn't keep harassing me or say something like the gun wasn't allowed in the library.
Later that night we were moving some stuff on the trailer and a friend of mine was helping me. We stopped at the gas station to get drinks and fuel. There was a Sheriff parked in the lot and he was standing in the store talking to the clerk. I looked at my friend and said, 'this probably isn't going to go well.' We went in and he noticed the gun right away but didn't say anything. I nodded and said 'morning' to both of them and walked away from them towards the candy. Then I walked past the Sheriff again to get my drink. When I went up to the counter to pay for the stuff the Sheriff asked me if that was a LC9 I was carrying. I said yes and he asked me to take it out so he could see it. I said, 'yeah that sounds like a good idea, pull a gun out with a cop standing next to me.' He got a chuckle out of that and I took it out to show it to him. We ended up having a conversation for 10 minutes about guns and the ammo we like to shoot from them. He never asked for my permit or ID.
Looking back I should have gotten their names and put in a call to inform their supervisors about how good of a job they did. If I see them again I will make sure to do that.
After reading some stories and watching some videos on You Tube I expected to get beaten up or something.
September 4th
So I just took my wife to Community Hospital in Anderson to get some blood work done. On the way out, an Indiana Sheriff and a plain clothes cop were waiting at the exit. They asked me to step outside (I was on my out the door) and then the plain cop said, "Don't you know that isn't concealed?", referring to my holstered LC9 in my waistband. I said, "Yes, I carry open and concealed weapons aren't allowed at the hospital." Then I pointed towards the sticker on the door with a gun and a 'no' sign on it with the words "NO CONCEALED GUNS' written on it. They then asked for my concealed carry permit. I told them it isn't a concealed permit, it is a license to carry a handgun. I produced the permit and they discussed weather or not it should have my finger print on it. I told them it was only a few months old and that I had my prints done electronically and that my permit looks like the example on the ISP website. The sheriff then asked me for my ID. I told him I would rather not give it to him. He said I was required to. I then told him that would constitute a search and the 4th amendment says I don't have to give my ID unless they have reasonable suspicion that I committed a crime. The city cop said they had reasonable suspicion since I was carrying a gun. I asked 'of what' and then my wife told me to just give them my ID. She then took the keys to the car and left to go make an appointment in the other building. They said they had to make sure that license was mine and I told them that Indiana Code says that I only have to present my license to carry and says nothing about giving my ID. I asked if I was being detained, they said no, then Sheriff then says in a threatening manner, "I won't ask for your ID again." I asked the city cop if he was APD, he said no that he worked for Lenard (I can't find this city or county) and I asked him if he was even in his jurisdiction which he replied that it doesn't matter, he has arrest powers no matter where he is. Too keep my wife happy I gave them my ID, although I was going to let them arrest me because a fiasco is the only way guys like this learn what the law really is. After they look at my ID they give both items back. I ask them both if they have a card. The Sheriff says that I don't need his card. I tell him that I want to file a complaint and he produces a card. The city cop says he doesn't have cards. I ask for his name and badge number, he rattles them off quickly and I tell him that I would like to write that down and asked if he had a pen. He said that I should have thought of that. So, I hurry to the car and find a pen and write down the info he gave me.
I call the Sheriffs office in Anderson and was told that I couldn't file a complaint about their reserve officer because he wasn't working for the department at the time. I still have no ideal who to call about the other guy since I can't find any information about a Lenord city or county. I do have his last name and badge number, assuming they are right. I went to complain to the Community security supervisor and they Sheriff came out. He sat down next to me with his form and I said, "Is your supervisor here?", he said no. I then said, "Don't you think it would be a conflict of interest for you to take this complaint?" He said, "I guess so." I asked for the supervisors name and number. I left a voice mail for him, we'll see what happens if I get a call back.
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