ok im a pretty happy man right now i shot my first group of reloads and they measered .6 inch at 100yds they were almost in the bull wich is just a side bonus i would have been just as happy if this group was a foot away but for my first batch i think i got it pretty close all my cases were fine im going to try and improve this some but its a pretty good starting point i think the shot thats closest to the bull was my third and i almost didn't shoot because i was scared to screw up this beautiful target but its the worst and it was my fault i jerked the trigger ever so slightly