IMO there are better out there for the money. some sellers, at least at the 1500 were way over priced especially for the quality of the one I handled. I turn on the lighted reticle on the lowest setting and there was light leaking all over in the tube. they look the part of a good optic and had it not been my ocd for research I would have bought one. for great prices on scopes try Quality optics and accessories from Leupold, Bushnell, Burris, Nikon and more!
so it was the guys at the 1500 eh? they pulled that with me to, they had a scope for $400 and then he said if I was paying cash it was $150. let me know how it turns out though as I'm interested to know.